Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RootThisBox

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. It should be noted that the same user argued to keep several times. --Coredesat 02:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RootThisBox

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This article was created in spite due to a dispute unrelated to Wikipedia (see brief: HTS is awesome - rip offs are not) and is misleading in its entirety. It is intended to be divisive (the real RootThisBox is located at www.rootthisbox.org). Furthermore, the entire text is copied from this article in revision: Talk:HackThisSite/rev1 -- Kerowren (talk • contribs • count) 00:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete. I can't see how this passes WP:WEB. I've googled but don't find any multiple non-trivial works that discuss this website. --Charlene 01:56, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per self referencing the_undertow talk 03:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Archnishop As a member of both sites i gotta say that allthough rtb might seem irrellevant it is quickly growing larger than hackthissite itself. The article kerowin linked to lacks credibillity and is an outlet of personal issues against the author of rootthisbox. — Archnishop (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep scenestar Kerowren I believe you yourself are using this deletion procedure for your own agenda.
You as a prominent hts member are (understandably) In favor of hackthissite. However I do find it highly inappropriate and to some extent offensive that from your own viewpoint of this situation you try to remove content from wikipedia which is in your opinion "controversial"
As for the copying of parts of the revision. The revision has been somewhat forgotten and albeit being under revision for over 6 months has yet to be used in the actual article. Last time I checked it showed very little activity considering only small minor edits have been made in the past months. Also, I would like to point out that me using it as a template/framework for a future more extensive article is perfectly OK under wikipedia's GNU Free Documentation License.
In repsonse towards charlene's argument of notabillity. The website has been around for years and has a dedicated following. However due to a dispute over the domain the .NET TLD was chosen over .ORG
.org In its current form has little more to do than a domain squatter gaining traffic from effort the efforts of the previous owner.
  • Reaffirming Delete - I have no prejudice towards rootthisbox.net scenestar, frankly, more power to you, but my concern is that you created the article so as to be divisive and "legitimize" rootthisbox.net. I say this because from what I have read on sources concerning the matter, it has been discussed and understood that rootthisbox.net is in no way a re-incarnation of RootThisBox.org, but your own separate project started after prominent mods expressed dissatisfaction with your lone choice to move the TLD:(There are other numerous sources testifying to this.)
  1. Meeting About Rtb, involving leadership change
  2. Recent changes, and soon to be releases
  3. HTS is awesome - rip offs are not
That alone is my concern, that if you are indeed holding animosity towards HTS that you did not create this article in spite. Please note also that in no way is the revision forgotten, it is being continually edited, and that it was recently put up for a requested move to become the main article. And on an another matter, your version has no where near the same number of active users as HTS. It only appears to do so being that you copied the entire database. So users who have never even heard of rootthisbox.net appear to have registered. -- Kerowren (talk • contribs • count) 20:12, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Those texts were released by hackthissite itself and therefore lack NPOV. But in respond to those lame alligations; I was personally appointed by Jeremy_Hammond as project leader --Scenestar 20:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I'd say Delete simply for the crap you're talking, scenestar. The .org site is the "real" RootThisBox project, and I haven't seen that many people move from .org to .net really. Hence I don't believe that you can say that the site has a dedicated following, or even that it's been around for years - because rootthisbox.net hasn't.
Either way, the stuff going on between RTB.net and HTS shouldn't matter here. To me, this is about notability, and if a webbased project like this doesn't get enough hits on Google, that's enough reason for me to vote Delete. -The preceding signed comment was added by Nazgjunk (talk • contrib) 10:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Looking at the above comments, I think AfD should stay out of this internecine dispute between members of different sites. DGG 09:12, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • By the same logic, shouldn't Wikipedia stay out of this? MER-C 05:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Tiberius rootthisbox.net rocks, it is a refreshing break from all the constant drama that pollutes hackthissite — 65.175.248.68 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep --Remi 01:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Why? This is not a vote. MER-C 05:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete and salt. Wikipedia is not a battleground for users of various sites to wage their wars. Let's stay out of this. MER-C 05:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
    • I would just like to point out that by deletion wikipedia would in fact become involved in this childish conflict between sites notably because the article was put up for deletion by a prominent member of hackthissite. I find it once again very distressing that wikipedia policies are being abused by Kerowren for his personal agenda
  • Delete per WP:WEB; no reliable, independent sources to establish notability. --Muchness 11:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm not so sure about salting, perhaps scenestar can consider moving this particular article revision to RootThisBox.NET -- Kerowren (talk • contribs • count) 16:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete also per WP:WEB, this site is non-notable. Regardless of it's status as a clone of HackThisSite (and I'm dissapointed at the utter hijacking of both the HackThisSite and RootThisBox articles) --EJFox 03:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
    • It should be noted that user EJFox is author of several defamatory posts towards several RTB members and is extremely biased. -The preceding signed comment was added by Scenestar (talk • contrib)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.