Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roosevelt Mall
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Moreschi Talk 14:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Roosevelt Mall
Non-notable strip mall in Philly. No notability even asserted; fails WP:RS. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 22:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. No notability at all, no important information worth merging. •Malinaccier• T/C 22:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete No indication it is important beyond the neighborhood it serves, and no sources to satisfy WP:N. Strip malls have generally not survived AFD unless they have some unusual things going for them to show they are more notable than the average strip mall. Edison 23:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge with the article for Northeast Philadelphia. To call it a strip mall is perhaps misleading. The Roosevelt Mall is as large as a regular mall, it just lacks a roof. If it were simply a strip of stores along an avenue, I'd vote to delete, but as the major commercial area for Northeast Philly, it is somewhat more important. People have tried to kill this article before, and I can't hold off the deletionist tide forever, but I think some of the info in the article should be preserved in some form. Coemgenus 10:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Comment How large is a "regular mall?" How large is this mall? I could not find a source. What the article needs is a source stating the gross leasable area which is the gold standard for classifying U.S. malls. Otherwise discussions of size are just an exercise in hand-waving. Edison 19:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I haven't been able to find an answer either. Here's a map of the area. [1] I'd say it's more than a half mile long, but how much of that is leasable space, I can't say. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not against getting rid of a separate article; I'd just like to preserve some of the info in the Northeast Philadelphia article, which mentions the mall already. Coemgenus 19:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- This page lists this strip at 560,439 square feet. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 01:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- The number of parking spaces sounds a bit small for that much GLA. Edison 04:27, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- This page lists this strip at 560,439 square feet. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 01:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- I haven't been able to find an answer either. Here's a map of the area. [1] I'd say it's more than a half mile long, but how much of that is leasable space, I can't say. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not against getting rid of a separate article; I'd just like to preserve some of the info in the Northeast Philadelphia article, which mentions the mall already. Coemgenus 19:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Comment How large is a "regular mall?" How large is this mall? I could not find a source. What the article needs is a source stating the gross leasable area which is the gold standard for classifying U.S. malls. Otherwise discussions of size are just an exercise in hand-waving. Edison 19:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep if there is sourcing. this is a regular size mall, with a similar number of stores and layout. For Philadelphia, even this sort of a mall is notable, though it was fairly grimy last time I saw it a few years ago. I think there's enough to keep. DGG (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. I fail to see how its location and the bus routes serving it make it notable. Vegaswikian 02:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete unless some attempt to establish notability is made. Nuttah68 09:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.