Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman Catholic Diocese of Bungoma

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The result was keep. — TKD::Talk 13:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roman Catholic Diocese of Bungoma

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Not really that notable. Notability is not inherited, and simply being part of something notable (The Catholic Church) doesn't make it notable itself. Individual employees and departments of Microsoft aren't necessarily notable. I don't feel that it satisfies WP:NOTE, since the sources are simply designed to list all similar organisations, and do not cover it due to its interest or notability. Rambutan (talk) 07:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. There is a long series of articles on dioceses and no reason to delete this particular one without re-examining all the others. -- Necrothesp 09:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I don't see what makes this Diocese not notable, but makes other dioceses notable. It would seem to me that individual dioceses, as the primary building blocks of the church's heirarchy, are all notable. I think the Microsoft example is misleading. I would compare it more to individual jurisdictions within a state, or individual legislators in a national government. Npeters22 12:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Notability is not inherited. That's a quote from policy.--Rambutan (talk) 12:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Maybe. It's an irrelevant quote, however, as nobody is saying it should be inherited. A diocese is a major subdivision of the Roman Catholic Church covering a large tract of land and huge numbers of people. It's not just a department within a company. As Npeters22 says, it's more like a sub-division of a country. -- Necrothesp 14:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I would vote to delete the great majority of articles on individual churches/parishes, maintaining a brief mention and perhaps an external link for them in articles about the towns/localities. However, dioceses of the major denominations do strike me as notable and encyclopaedic. The date that they were established gives some evidence as to the history of the church in that locality. (Disclosure: I'm a Christian but not a Catholic nor even a member of another territorially-organised denomination.) - Fayenatic (talk) 22:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as previous comments. I would consider a diocese as notable. KTC 03:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep dioceses. Fg2 10:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - status as a diocese is notability in and of itself. Comparing it to corporate offices is more than a little misleading, as they are also, in effect, local governments of the church, not just "corporate departments". John Carter 20:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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