Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roma and Sinti

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The result of the debate was delete. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 12:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roma and Sinti

This one's a bit of an odd one - both Roma and Sinti have their own articles, and there's nothing here which couldn't be in those articles. But lots of things link to this page. Merge would be the best option, but which to? And is it worth keeping this as a redirect afterwards since it's just as easy for the other articles to have "[[Roma]] and [[Sinti]]" as "[[Roma and Sinti]]"? Grutness...wha? 05:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

• I think the issue is that "Gypsy" may be referring to either one. In the past, the article was a disambiguation, which I thought was strange, because the two were not ambiguous. I say, delete this, point any "Gypsy" references to Roma and include a note at the top, "Gypsy redirects here, for Sinti, see Sinti. - CrazyRussian talk/email 05:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Crzrussian's suggestion. --TBCTaLk?!? 05:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
• Remark. The given recommendations will not work as such. First, for "[[Roma]]" above read "[[Roma people]]"; the page Roma is a disambiguation page. There is an article Gypsy which does not redirect to Roma people, so the proposed top note would not work. It would have made sense if Gypsy was a redirect page to Roma and Sinti, but it is not. A meaningful top note is "Roma and Sinti redirects here", but then this page should become a redirect page, and not be deleted. Many articles already have two links "[[Roma people|Roma]] and [[Sinti]]". If I understand the situation, the PC "Roma and Sinti" instead of just "Roma" is used because some Sinti groups object to being classified as Roma, not because they aren't Roma people by any objective criterion. If "Roma and Sinti" is not more than PC speak for Roma people, then it should either be linked as [[Roma people|Roma and Sinti]], whereupon this page can be deleted, or be made into a redirect page to Roma people. It is not a service to the reader if it is replaced by a pair of links. --Lambiam^Talk 08:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
  • What I mean is, most of the links are like these: [[Roma and Sinti|Roma]], [[Roma and Sinti|Gypsy]]. When Gypsy or Roma is said in an article, the convention seems to have developed to link to Roma and Sinti because either or both may be meant. Let the disclaimer at the top of Roma people say something like "This is the main article about people commonly known as "Gypsies", there's also Sinti." Or something like it. I dunno... - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per CrzRussian. --Coredesat 09:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Roma people and add to top of latter "See also: Sinti". --DaveG12345 20:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.