Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roland Adams
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Srikeit 10:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Roland Adams
Murder victim. Hit the newspapers and someone who turned up to a march afterwards happened to be murdered himself = trivial. Simply no evidence this is encyclopaedic. -Docg 21:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not worthy of a bio, maybe a piece on the murder itself if someone thought it was worth it. People get murdered all the time (admittedly most of them aren't school kids) we don't need a bio on all of them. ViridaeTalk 23:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- This article is not a bio, it is about the murder case. It contains no information about Adams that is not directly relevant to his murder. JulesH 17:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete; being murdered, while certainly unfortunate, does not make one notable. -- Mithent 00:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- No. However being discussed in multiple reliable sources does, which did happen in this case. JulesH 17:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete as per WP:NOT for memorialising. Eddie.willers 03:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- I see no evidence of memorialising. JulesH 17:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Delete - small article that does not have the scope to improve or be merged elsewhere. violet/riga (t) 08:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)- No vote while new evidence is considered. violet/riga (t) 19:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep to give JulesH (and any others) the chance to turn this into a decent article. violet/riga (t) 21:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- No vote while new evidence is considered. violet/riga (t) 19:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Delete – long ago, no developments, unlikely to be encyclopedic. And the memorial thing. r.i.p. tomasz. 10:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)- Keep per JulesH's demonstration & violet/riga's reasoning above. (And rename to something like Murder of Rolan Adams to reflect his proper name). tomasz. 20:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Strong keep - a historically important murder that immediately lead to a period of strong racial tensions in London. Article doesn't read at all like a memorial to me, although it really needs expanding. This radio programme and the book White Backlash and the Politics of Multiculturalism by Roger Hewitt (Cambridge University Press, 2005) which contains a 5 page summary of the case could be helpful. The case was mentioned in parliament twice. Note that the article's title is wrong: the victim's name was "Rolan Adams". See also [1] [2] and [3]. JulesH 17:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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- OK. It seems the case was used as an illustration in a wider debate on British racism and while attitudes. That's still not a reason to have any information presented as a biography of the victim. Could we merge this somewhere, where that context can be presented? Any thoughts?--Docg 17:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- If there is an article about Racism in the United Kingdom or such-like we should consider including this case there. However, as it stands right now the article currently has very little content that could be useful. violet/riga (t) 19:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- My suggestion would be to rename the article Murder of Rolan Adams and restructure accordingly. I'd be willing to start the process once this AFD is closed, having done at least part of the necessary research. JulesH 08:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- OK. It seems the case was used as an illustration in a wider debate on British racism and while attitudes. That's still not a reason to have any information presented as a biography of the victim. Could we merge this somewhere, where that context can be presented? Any thoughts?--Docg 17:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, individual is not notable, notability of the event unverified. Deiz talk 10:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. The subject's only claim to fame is that he was one of thousands of murder victims. Not encyclopaedic. ElinorD (talk) 16:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
