Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rodryg Dunin (2nd Nomination)

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The result was keep. John254 01:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rodryg Dunin

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Clearly a non notable person and fails WP:BIO. A google search reveals less then 500 topics. The two references only state 1) about his estate and 2) a list of Virtuti Militari Recipients, of which he is one of a few hundred. None of those sources are verifiable nor trustworthy sources. CO₂ 15:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. There's definitely some unsourced content that needs to be trimmed from the article, but are we really saying our inclusion standards should be higher than Polski słownik biograficzny, the Polish equivalent of the Dictionary of National Biography? Of course google isn't going to be a good source of information on a Polish historical figure. I am happy to rely on the Polish biographical dictionary's determination of Rodrgy Dunin's notability. WjBscribe 16:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: the VM list refers to his son, so isn't relevant to notability of the article subject. Thomjakobsen 18:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • True, but that doesn't affect the fact that he's sufficiently significant for the Polish biographical dictionary to include him.... WjBscribe 00:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

• I wasn't offering an opinion, just correcting what the nomination said. Thomjakobsen 11:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I know we have used similar criteria for Canada and Australia and the UK, but I think in this case we need to inquire whether by any chance they list all minor nobility indiscriminately. Since WP does not list all minor nobility indiscriminately, then perhaps we should change the policy here, using AGF. I would appreciate it if someone could translate the entry there. I see no definite statement that the article was about him, or whether it merely mentioned him. DGG (talk) 04:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Mentioned in Polski słownik biograficzny, hence notable. If anybody can send me the Polish PSB article, I'll be happy to translate/verify it.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  06:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

  I think the original Polish text is at Talk:Rodryg Dunin#Translation needed. WjBscribe 12:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable enough for the Polski słownik biograficzny, the Polish equivalent of the Dictionary of National Biography, he is notable enough for Wikipedia as User:Uppland said. OldEnt ^§ 19:24, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Upon reading the article about the Polish Biographical Dictionary, I am convinced that the standards for inclusion in that publication are high enough to confirm the notability of this individual. It would be nice to have more information about the agricultural advances he made, as while sources relating to that might not refer directly to the subject, it would provide some more substance to the article. I don't doubt that the contributions were important, I just more would like to know HOW they were important. That's more just a suggestion for improvement, since I'm here. LaMenta3 20:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Certainly meets notability standards •CHILLDOUBT• 13:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Appears notable enough. • Lawrence Cohen 13:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. This isn't "clearly" a non-notable person, clearly. Burntsauce 23:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.