Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robland

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete, not counting the sockpuppets. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robland

Non-notable TV program plan for a micronation. Wikipedia is not a soapbox (WP:NOT), and presumably advertising and self-promotion. "Kingdom of Robland" returns no Google hits. [1] --Edcolins 12:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC) robland is no just a soap it will be the most important thing in the history off belgium. if you delete the topic now it will be back when Robland is independent. are you guys gonna delete it then greets a robiaan

• Delete. Per nom. --Edcolins 12:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all fake micronations. Also, all those lyrics probably constitute a copyvio. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. I don't understand this. If you want to delete this article, you'll have to do the same for every one about a non-recognised micronation, Lovely (micronation) in particular. Robiaan 15:22, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment in order to respond to the earlier ratio: I'm not self advertising, I'm just a fan. And of course a search on "Kingdom of Robland" retuns nothing. One on "Republic of the United States of America" yields 18,000 results, one without the prefix 132 million. Just search for Robland in short and you'll see. Robiaan 15:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete a per nom. Bige1977 16:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Very weak keep. I was quite unimpressed by the Gsearch proposed by Robiaan. There seem to be two links to this in the first 100, one of which is the show's website (in Dutch) and a Belgian blog post about the show. I was ready to say delete, but the Dutch Wikipedia has an article on this. This barely puts it over the line, in my opinion, but if it's notable in Nederlands then it's notable in English, or so it seems to me. --Deville (Talk) 16:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment. The link to the Dutch article is deceptive. The English article is about a planned micronation, the Dutch article about a Flemish TV program. This does not appear to be consistent. --Edcolins 16:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

  Ok, I read the Dutch article more carefully, and, yes, it's about a Flemish TV program, and the plot of that program is that the host will try and create this micronation. The English article agrees with this and states up front that the impetus from creating the micronation is the same TV program itself. --Deville (Talk) 17:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment: it's not true that there seem to be two links to this in the first 100, one of which is the show's website (in Dutch) and a Belgian blog post about the show. I've found more than a dozen on the first page alone, most indeed in Dutch, maybe making them harder to recognize by English speaking users. Robiaan 09:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Terence Ong 17:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep per nl having an article on this. --Rory096 22:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. All the facts in the article are correct, the only thing is that this micronation is not yet recognized by the UN but there will be a meeting at the end of may for a recognition by the UN. If that goes well this article is completely correct. So If we add a note "Not yet UN-approved on top it should be correct" --Loneblackrider 01:10, 1 may 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. See Wikipedia:Afd/Lovely (micronation) (2nd nomination). WP:POINT by Robiaan. Note that Loneblackrider may be a sock puppet (contributions) and that his/her vote should be not be taken into account.--Edcolins 07:01, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

  I strongly deny that I am or have anything to do with Loneblackrider. You can say a lot of things about me, but you haven't found me lying yet, so I don't think you can ignore his vote without any evidence. Robiaan 17:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Just keep: this is very popular in belgium and should be accounted for!

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.