Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert E. Dunn

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. notability has not been demonstrated. - Philippe | Talk 04:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Robert E. Dunn

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Contested prod, article does not assert notability. Roleplayer (talk) 01:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Robert E. Dunn is an extremely famous and important lawyer. He is known all throughout New Jersey, especially Somerset County. I don't think that Roleplayer is from New Jersey so obviously he doesn't even have any idea as to who Robert E. Dunn is.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Venterius (talk • contribs) 02:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: Notability needs to apply to more than a local area. Being well-known in Somerset County isn't enough to justify his inclusion. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete References do not justify notability. The first site isn't third-party, the second site is just a business listing and doesn't really say anything, and the NY Times link doesn't even mention him, but one of his colleagues, so I have no idea why it's being used as a reference. I'm not getting anything on Google but other people, either. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Article doesn't really establish notability. References don't show substantial coverage. He isn't the subject of the sources provided.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Robert Dunn had an important role in the Sean Combs case back in 2001. He is not just notable in New Jersey, but the entire North East. He has had several important murder cases in the last twenty years. I am in the process of going through paperwork relating to him that I recieved from my father who was Dunn's boss for many years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thriley (talk • contribs) 04:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Let me know if you find any articles relating to him in the Star Ledger or New York Times. I definitely know of reading of some in the Star Ledger, but I'm pretty sure that there were some in the Times as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Venterius (talk • contribs) 04:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: Let us know when this person generates non-trivial discussion by third party sources, not when he is standing in the courtroom with someone famous. I met Joe Strummer, and Joe Strummer met Paul McCartney, and Paul McCartney knows the queen of England: I cannot get an article that way. Utgard Loki (talk) 15:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep: I don't know what else to say except that this article needs more time. I know the sources which were cited are really bad, but he was once on the front page of the Star Ledger for helping to represent I. Kathleen Hagen, and there have been articles about him in the New York Times as well. In all seriousness I don't see as to why Johnnie Cochran should have his own article if Robert E. Dunn can't. We just need to gather more and better sources. Thank you.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Venterius (talk • contribs) 16:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
    Comment a search of the New York Times online digital archive returns this hit: [1], which although it shows that this person exists does not assert notability as the article is not about him, it merely mentions his name. It is the only hit on his name in the database and I assume there are hundreds of lawyers mentioned in NYT on a regular basis: they don't all deserve Wikipedia articles. -- Roleplayer (talk) 16:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • That isn't the only article about Robert E. Dunn. It's not like NY Times saves every single article they have online. There are articles about him that date back to the early 90's, but I doubt you'll be able to find them on the NY Times website. If You give me time I'll look for and cite sources of him from actual printed newspapers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Venterius (talk • contribs) 17:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep notable attorney with notable clients supported by reliable sources. Alansohn (talk) 20:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. — BQZip01 — talk 00:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.