Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Ditter

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was NO CONSENSUS. The pseudo-argument related to the EU and its predecessors is, as Iridiscenti correctly identifies, totally spurious, since the subject of the article is not mentioned as having anything whatever to do with any of them. Mukadderat, a raw vote is useless this not being a vote. That leaves a balance between arguments that he is "not notable as a school headteacher" and "he is headteacher of a notable school". Having already relisted this once in search of consensus, I'm left finding that there is none. DGG's suggestion is probably the useful outcome here. -Splash - tk 22:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Ditter

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• Keep the unknown I.P. gives no reason for deleting the article. Pinus pinea 20:16 1.4.2007 (CET)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - director of a high school with 900 pupils is not grounds for notability. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 17:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Splash - tk 17:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Doesn't seem to establish notability, fails WP:BIO. Montco 02:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep it would appear that this is a famous gymnasium, but perhaps the article should be about the school, since there seem to be reliable refs.Size isn't the point--this is a very selective European school.DGG
• delete. . Mukadderat 17:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • • Keep in the 1960 to promote school partnership between a German High School and High Schools in France and Belgium was a courageous task. One should remember that in 1944 not far away from Hirson and Charleroi (Marcinelle) the two towns twinned with Schramberg there was a huge battle (battle of the bulge, Battle of Bastogne, etc), and the massacres of the SS were not forgotten. When Ditter and Dr. Hank (the mayor of Schramberg) went to France and Belgium in the beginning 1960 they sometimes needed police protection. To promote friendship between people by twinning schools 15 years after world war II seems to be a memorably task, because men like Ditter and Hank founded the grass roots basics, for what is called the EU we know today. Pinus pinea 20:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC) 22:11 13.4.2007 (CEST)

That's a spurious argument - the EEC (now EU) was founded in 1957 (and the ECSC in 1951), whilst Ditter wasn't appointed to the post in question until 1964. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 10:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

not as spurious as it migth seem, because the EEC was as first a economic community "The European Economic Community (EEC) was an organization established by the Treaty of Rome (25 March 1957) between the ECSC countries Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and West Germany, known informally as the Common Market (the Six). The EEC was the most significant of the three treaty organizations that were consolidated in 1967 to form the European Community (EC; known since the ratification 1993 of the Maastricht treaty as the European Union, EU). The EEC had as its aim the eventual economic union of its member nations, ultimately leading to political union. It worked for the free movement of goods, service, labour and capital, the abolition of trusts and cartels, and the development of joint and reciprocal policies on labour, social welfare, agriculture, transport, and foreign trade." (Source: EEC) and without people like Ditter working on the grass roots it would never had the political succsess it has now. Ditter was appointed 64, the political considilation of the EEC was in 1967, ((and the UK just for information) was still outside the club), - so i am still for Keep Pinus pinea 11:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC) 14.4.2007 (CEST)

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