Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Blake (folk singer)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep per article improvements and sourcing. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Robert Blake (folk singer)
No independant sources, unable to find any. Artists own site's "Press Clippings" section has one article (2004) from a source I am unable to locate/verify. "Signed" to his own label. Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Furthermore, I do not personally know this artist at all and this article was not intended to further the cause of a personal friend or promote Robert Blake's music for any other reason than that this man has something to add to the great litany of American musicians. He is a great musician, well respected amongst those in the folk music scene, and has a fan base that stretches from Bellingham, WA (Blake's hometown) all the way to Ireland. Here is another independent magazine that mentions Robert Blake and independently verifies the fact that he is a known recording artist: http://www.whatsup-magazine.com/index.php?navarea=Archives&storyid=747 I believe that deleting this article attacks the core belief of Wikipedia; namely, that small independent voices can add something to the greater good of society. Deleting this article would be both disrespectful to the artist himself and to the idea that individuals should be able to take their own path in life - though it may be different from the norm - and still manage to create something beautiful, lasting, and meaningful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiretalk (talk • contribs) 22:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Here is a link to a review from a show that Blake played in Ireland. http://www.irelandlogue.com/music/robert-sarazin-blake-in-ballymahon.html It is unfair to claim that this artist is unimportant and not noteworthy enough for Wikipedia when he has been consistently releasing albums and playing venues, both here and abroad, for nearly a decade. Simply because one cannot here this artist on MTV or Top 40 radio play - two venues he would almost certainly deny exposure on anyway - is no reason not to include this extremely talented and influential artist on a website dedicated to the pursuit and dissemination of information of all types. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiretalk (talk • contribs) 22:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- He didn't sing "Keep Your Eye on the Sparrow". He's not that Robert Blake. Mandsford (talk) 00:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Shiretalk: Your comments, while heartfelt, do not address the core issue: Notability in wikipedia. Whether or not he is heard on MTV or Top 40, has been "been consistently releasing albums", the "idea that individuals should be able to take their own path in life", that "small independent voices can add something to the greater good of society", that you "do not personally know this artist", that the article "was not intended to further the cause of a personal friend or promote Robert Blake's music for any other reason than that this man has something to add" -- all of these arguments are moot: they are not of practical importance to this debate. If you wish to save the article, support his notability in the article (based on guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (music)) by citing reliable sources. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- UPDATE
I have again updated the article with more verifiable sources; all of which prove the notability of Robert Blake. This article now fulfills, not one, but three different criteria according to the Wikipedia:Notability (music) guidelines. The three criteria that this article meets are as follows:
1. It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.[1]
4. Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
7. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
I hope that this will finally quell the fears that this artist is not noteworthy enough to be included in Wikipedia.--Shiretalk (talk) 20:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep The supplemental information seems to satisfy the notability requirement.Georgiamonet (talk) 05:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep I've been following this discussion since the original nomination. The references that have been produced (even excluding the Same Room Records links, since that's Blake's label) seem to me to be enough to show multiple, non-trivial coverage. Xymmax (talk) 15:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.