Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard McPartland

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Walton ^{Need some help?} 17:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Richard McPartland

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Not notable and unrefrenced. Felix 14:35, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• Delete A cab driver, with 400 ghits. Oh, and he's dead. :) Placeholder account 23:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Per nom. Stoic atarian 06:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. The subject has "made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field." as per WP:BIO. Less famous than his brother Jimmy, but still part of the Austin High School Gang that began the style known as Chicago Jazz. [1] Google references include Chicago Jazz Archive, [2], lists recording sessions and dates and some interesting information at Smithsonian oral history project. Given the importance of the group in the history of American Jazz, I'm sure the subject is also very well referenced in print. The article has incoming links from Austin High School Gang, Jimmy McPartland, Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/May 18 and four links from Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians. Currently it is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Jazz and was stubbed by one of their members as part of a logical expansion of the members of the Austin High School Gang. The article was created by an active Wikiproject and has been up barely six weeks. Paxse 16:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KrakatoaKatie 13:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep per Paxse. I could only find passing references to him, so I question whether there is enough material in reliable sources for more than a stub, in which case there could be a merge to Austin High School Gang. Arguments for keeping or deleting the article shoudl be based on his role in jazz in the 1920's and 1930's and the creation of the Chicago style of jazz, and clearly not on his cab driving. Also, the number of Google hits is not very meaningful in determining the notability of persons active in the 1920's and 1930's. Jazz magazines of the era in libraries will prove a more meaningful metric of influence in that time. The fact that he is dead is also irrelevant, since this is not Livingpersonpedia. He was clearly a part of a notable band for an extended period. Edison 18:54, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - but the article needs some significant TLC. Noting the importance of the AHSG to Jazz, a good starting place might be to expand upon Mr. McPartland's role in that group and the Chicago Jazz scene - thus asserting notability. ZZ 18:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep a quick Google search demonstrates that there are numerous articles available to establish notability per Wikipedia guidelines. The article does however, need a complete rewrite to make the notability clear to peope already not knowledgeable o the subject. Nuttah68 15:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.