Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Researching Japanese names

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was transwiki to Wikibooks. I realize this is pretty unorthodox, as I participated in the debate. However there are too many solutions being proposed, none of them has majority consensus apart from that the article doesn't belong here in the main namespace (thus, a "no consensus" close, while probably an accurate assessment, would result in the wrong thing happening, which I think is why people keep not closing this debate). With a transwiki closure, the material will be available in full; that way if anyone wants to incorporate some of the material into other places, they can. (If another admin sees this closure and agrees with it, I'd appreciate a note of endorsement here, for transparency's sake.) Mangojuicetalk 13:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Endorse the end result, but your closing it because closing as no consensus would lead to "the wrong thing happening" is entirely inappropriate; please don't do it again. Neil ☎ 14:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Researching Japanese names

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This seems to fall under a combination of WP:NOT#DIRECTORY and WP:NOT#REPOSITORY. J-ſtanTalkContribs 03:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete: This is a directory page, and not acceptable for Wikipedia. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Move or Delete: This doesn't belong in the article namespace. If WP:JAPAN wants it, it should be moved to a subpage they can manage, otherwise delete. Burzmali (talk) 16:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. —Fg2 (talk) 00:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The policy WP:NOT#DIRECTORY lists five criteria and the policy WP:NOT#REPOSITORY lists four. Of those, I cannot identify any one that describes this article. Researching Japanese names presents valuable encyclopedic information for general readers and its interest goes beyond Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan (of which I'm a member). So it should stay in the article namespace. (Other titles can be considered.) Fg2 (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm not sure on this one. There are no sources on the page, but all of the works listed there could be used as sources. Are there any articles out there which list references for looking up Japanese name information? These could be used to source the content here. I don't think an AfD was the proper way to note these problems, however. The article should have been marked as needing sources instead, and perhaps a note placed on the WikiProject Japan talk page. I agree with Fg2's interpretation of WP:NOT. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I didn't nominate it to correct those problems, I nominated it because it's just a list of references. Is there another wiki that could cover this, so that we could transwiki? J-ſtanTalkContribs 14:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
  • merge into Japanese name Chris (talk) 16:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Move or delete per Burzmali. This doesn't violate WP:NOT#DIR, it violates WP:NOT#HOWTO, in a big way. I can't picture how this could become an article, but even if there is a way, someone needs to do it or we shouldn't keep it in the main namespace. Mangojuicetalk 14:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge content into List of genealogy portals and add external links. I think the content is reasonable for Wikipedia, but Researching Japanese names is an unsuitable article name. The Japanese sources should be in a separated section of List of genealogy portals so that it can be specifically referenced by other articles such as Japanese name. PKT (talk) 19:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Transwiki to Wikibooks as a 'How to' guide. BlueValour (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and transwiki. I agree with Mangojuice on his interpretation of WP:NOT#HOWTO. However, I do feel some of it will be relevant in Japanese name. The majority can be transwikied to Wikibooks, though. SorryGuy 04:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.