Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Renee Bryant

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. Linuxbeak | Talk 00:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Renee Bryant

This page is one of a circular set of self-refential non-notable (low google hit count) bios, all of which have a family relationship and have been created in the last couple of weeks

There's also a set of redirects for various forms of each of the names. Josh Parris # 06:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete; nicely wikified, but NN -- Egil 11:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. Logophile 13:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-notable. Hopefully the author isn't too discouraged by this because all of these articles are well presented and wiki'd, even if the subjects are not very notable.--Isotope23 18:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Clearly notable for receiving presitigious awards and for relation to a Brigadier General. Possibly, she does not merit her own article, but the Bryants as a whole should certainly deserve some mention. I advocate combining all of the above into one article. (unsigned by Ronald Collinson)
    • What is so notable about the Outstanding Civilian Service Award or the Commander's Award for Public Service? Both of these were added to wikipedia by the author of this article, presumably to bolster the case for Renee Bryant's notability. Can you point out other existing articles on wikipedia where these awards are used as a case for notability (not by the author of the Bryant articles)? I'm not advocating removing the articles for these awards because I think this is good, useful, encyclopedic information (and the articles are well written); however they don't make a case for notability. Your other point about her being notable for relation to a Brigadier General also isn't supported by wikipedia precedent. Norman Schwarzkopf has a wife and three children... none of them have wikipedia articles. Colin Powell has a wife and three children as well. Only Michael Powell has a wikipedia article because he has clearly achieved notability on his own (ignoring any arguements of nepotism) by becoming the chairman of the FCC. The Bryant's clearly have had distinguished and interesting lives, but not one of them, other than Lori Bryant-Woolridge has done anything to acheive an encyclopedic level of notability.--Isotope23 13:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
    • The two awards are clearly notable, as they are (verifiably) the third and fourth highest honors the Department of the Army can award to a civilian. Supported by www.cpol.army.mil/library/mer/awards/public.html, they are clearly not throwaway or vanity honors that are handed out to every Tom, Dick, or Harriet. By definition it stands to reason that there have not been that many of these awards given out (this is admittedly conjecture, but based on similar stats for similar high-level government awards). Interestingly, Albert Bryant Jr's awards are given out to far more people than the ones Renee Bryant has received. Thus in an odd way, Renee Bryant may be more notable than her husband.--el_amante
  • Keep. Based on the legitimate significance of the awards and the clear link to an established multi-generational, award-winning, military family. Just because there are low Google hits does not mean she is not notable. It doesn't strike me that there would be much coverage of this type of individual, however notable, except, perhaps local coverage and or DoD press advisories at the time. Do we know, too, whether some of these awards weren't awarded pre-dating the archiving of articles, etc. commonly on the Internet? (Agree, as well, that the article is well written.) (el_amante) 19:22, 12 October 2005
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.