Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ren (Middle-earth)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 03:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ren (Middle-earth)

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Pure fanfic, deriving in part from an old RPG and adding some more OR. The article is virtually a copy of Nazgûl, changing only a couple of sections. Not the first instance of creating such articles, as the RPG was quite famous but still is considered non-canon and fanfic, even not fanon. Súrendil 20:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Also nominating the following for the same reasons:

And I hope the following won't even be created:

  • Delete This basically duplication of the Nazgul article plus some OR. VanTucky (talk) 20:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete OR pretending to be canon, although I read the whole thing to find out if there was a Nazgul named Stimpy. Acroterion (talk) 02:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete The individual Nazgul are not notable, even in an in-world sense, because there is too little material for any of them individually DGG (talk) 02:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete None of these cite any "significant coverage from independent real world sources" Corpx 02:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Nazgûl#Names, titles and terms. The bottom line is these names aren't from Tolkien himself, as Súrendil says. The Nazgûl article already mentions these names and their origin: they're from Iron Crown Enterprises, featured in their Middle-earth Role Playing game and Middle-earth Collectible Card Game (pre-film trilogy merchandise). Uthanc 14:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete This is on par with a Saturday Night Live commercial spoof. You cannot simply make up characters and plug them into Tolkien's world as if they are legitimate. Ryecatcher773 17:46, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect per Uthanc. IronGargoyle 20:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete and then recreate as redirects to Nazgûl#Names, titles and terms per Uthanc to discourage recreation. No need to keep the original edit history as those edits are just an un-needed copying and expansion of material that was already present at Nazgûl. Carcharoth 21:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.