Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasa von Werder

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. CitiCat ♫ 22:30, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rasa von Werder

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Originally tagged as speedy candidate under criterion G11. That might be a bit of a stretch, though not by much. Still, maybe an AfD will turn up somebody who's wiling to clean this up and include actual reliable third-party sources that establish the subject's notability. Failing that, I'm all for deletion. Pascal.Tesson 03:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I put up this article and am very new to Wikipedia so if I get a little time I will correct it and clearly put in all the references for the statements made. I am sorry if my inexperience has caused a problem but I will make all the alterations. Michkr1 03:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. The only "reference" provided for any of the material is Rasa / Kellie's personal web site; independent sources are needed to corroborate the claims. As is, this page is blatant advertising for the subject and her web site. Also note, a WP entry at "Kellie Everts" with substantially similar content was deleted a year or so ago. fbb_fan 10:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I do understand the objections and all I ask is a day or two to supply the requisite references. As I say I am new to this and so some of the required formats are new to me but I am working to get it as required. It will of course then be up to the community to judge. Again I do please ask for a little time to comply. Thanks. Michkr1 11:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep: Kellie Everts did get a great deal of press back in the day during her "Stripping For God" shtick, as well as following that up with a quixotic political run. I'd be much happier were this article under the Everts name rather than her current name, which would be far less notable. The article itself is a bit of a mess, but it's also only five days old.  RGTraynor  16:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The media attention was certainly enough, and one does not lose notability. DGG (talk) 00:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I just want to thank people for their patience with my newness to the medium. I have the new version almost finished. Waiting for permissions to use direct quotes from notable people involved in Kellie's story. Michkr1 13:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I will be putting up a new version in the next 48 hours and would welcome all comments. Michkr1 05:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment: Why is the article titled Rasa von Werder when everything in the article is about Kellie Everts? If Rasa is Kelly's birth name, then please state that and how/when it was changed. Or, maybe Kellie Everts is Rasa's stage name. In any case, please explain it in the article. There are also several typos in the article, the most obvious of which is the mismatched '=" signs in the KELLIE EVERTS section heading. Please correct these and spell-check and read your text before saving it. And most (all?) of the links in the References section only take you to the source, not the referenced article. Please remove these links. It's okay to cite the source without a link. If there's a link, the reader expects to see the referenced article and that's not the case here. Truthanado 13:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. With regard to the references there are facsimilies of all the references at the KellieEverts website but although this was stated in first draft the comments stated references were needed. Any help here would be very useful. Should I just make a statement with the Kellie URL? I would like to change the name to Kellie Everts but am not sure how to do so. This is my first attempt here. I will check all spelling again. Michkr1 13:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.