Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rappin' Granny

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-26 09:04Z

[edit] Rappin' Granny

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Reality tv cruft. She lost, not notable. MacRusgail 00:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Far from reality TV cruft, she has appeared in 18 television series during a career lasting over 10 years. She also appears to be a regular on Everybody Hates Chris. Maxamegalon2000 01:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep no valid reason for deletion as notability is provided in article —siroχo 01:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Failure on talent contest and bit parts = notability?! --MacRusgail 02:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    • The problem is, you've made so many bad nominations that nobody is listening at this point. ObiterDicta 02:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I would list them in opposite order, but yes, that seems to be my position, though I would be reluctant to refer to appearing on but not winning a television talent contest as "failure". In fact, I would rephrase "failure on talent contest and bit parts" as "finalist on nationwide televised talent contest and television character actress." --Maxamegalon2000 02:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment - Her roles appear to be extremely minor, e.g. one of five "tea ladies" on the Lady Killers remake, and listed 28th on the cast listing of the film on the IMDB list [1]. Occasional roles on Everybody hates Chris neglible too. --MacRusgail 02:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• No, the article does not "establish her notability" since it does not contain any reliable sources. Google News and Google News Archives suggest she's borderline notable, at best. ObiterDicta 02:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - nn --ImpartialCelt 02:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I hereby, pass the burden of proof of non notability to you —siroχo 20:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Possibly notable as finalist on the show, especially becuase she's an actress as well. ConDem^Talk 04:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The notability of this article is not high, infact i dont even think there is any there at all, if there was a wikipedia article for every single entrant or contestnat on singing programmes, wikioedia would have about an extra 100,000 articles, what makes this so special with the utmost respect to the author and editors?Tellyaddict^{Editor review!} 11:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I hereby, pass the burden of proof of non notability to you —siroχo 20:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Note, sources have been added to the article. —siroχo 20:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep notable per Siroxo's link. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 21:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Tellyaddict & MacRusgail. Losing contestant, bit part player cruft. D Mac Con Uladh 21:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - Another reason why "notability" is a flawed guideline, subjective, and should not be used for determining whether an article should stay on wikipedia. DanielZimmerman 21:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The amount of shows she has had appearances on seems to confirm her notability. I also have my doubts about the motives of the nominator. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 23:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and speedy close. Real entertainer, solid resumé —xanderer 23:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable, not encyclopaedic, not remembered in six months. - WeniWidiWiki 01:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• Comment, You have no way to assert that she will not be remembered in six months. You have no way of knowing what tv shows or movies she will be cast in. Decisions to remove people from wikipedia should not be based on conjecture. DanielZimmerman 15:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.