Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randall Thornberry

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mr.Z-man 00:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Randall Thornberry

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Despite all of the verbiage, the bands this person is apparently associated with don't appear to meet Wikipedia's notability standards. There was apprently a prod on this once before, which I hadn't discovered till after I put a db-person tag on it, but since the prod has been removed during the lifetime of this "article", we have to go here. Corvus cornixtalk 02:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

We are working on fixing the article. Most edits and update will take place today. When we are done we will remove all tags and the article will be up to the standards. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadiancreativesignal (talk • contribs) 02:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Please do not remove the tags, that would not be proper. Please see WP:BAND. None of the bands appears to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for band notability. Corvus cornixtalk 02:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I don't know how to put them back on. Anywho, I don't think that will be necessary anyway. The bands listed are notable. Most have a very stable wiki page. I have linked everything and made note of everything. I think that this is a very solid and well written article. There are not many things about this artist. There is however alot of music and lyrics. I think that this is a very informative page. After I listened to his stuff. this page help me figuire out who he is. That is why I contribute to the page. I think that this the work I put in to this page is clearly for information. None is advertising for this artist. I like and am happy with the article. I think that fans will be too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadiancreativesignal (talk • contribs) 02:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep, Well Written article, All information if verifable if you look real hard, one of the only information sources for the artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadiancreativesignal (talk • contribs)
  • Delete. Of the three "sources" linked, the first is a message-board post, and neither of the other two contains any mention of the name Thornberry. A Google search turns up no reliable sources that support the information in the article, nor does Thornberry appear to be mentioned in any of the wikilinked articles therein. This appears to fail WP:V. Deor (talk) 03:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep,Must agreed with Deor with it not having many realiable sources. HOWEVER they are out there. I have google Randall Thornberry, and found about 3 or 4 great sources. And I'm sure their are many more. He has about 4 thousands hits. That enought for a wiki page in my opinion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.196.245 (talk) 03:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Odd, I get only 79 unique hits when searching for "Randall Thornberry". And a search for "R4!L" +Thornberry yields only the WP article and the same on a Bulgarian WP mirror site. Where exactly are these "great sources"? Deor (talk) 04:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, It has 112,000 GHits. It passes my Ghits test. Not to mention, lots of people have worked on this for about a year now. I can find 493 Unique hits on metasearchs. This is notable article,. Wikipedia has alot of rubbish articles this one ain't one. I also happen to know CCS and know his information is found only. I have even created this account to stand up for this article. I believe CSS primarly uses one of the band websites. This is a keeper —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arizonacroc (talk • contribs) 04:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC) — Arizonacroc (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Strong Delete The 112,000 hits on google are probably due the number of people named "randall", forcing Google to search for the phrase "Randall Thornberry" yields less than two pages of links to Mr. Thornberry's work, and most of those are either copies of this Wikipedia article, or self-published content such as author-contributed lyrics listings. Dalamori (talk) 10:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete due to lack of credible independent sources. WP:SPA involvement leads also to the impression of promotion. Guy (Help!) 11:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep This person has lots of different stuff about him online, such as a couple of youtube videos. They get alot of views. Not to mention. I have taken the time to do some research and it's seem that the sources listed are wrong, but the websites has alot on this person. You just have to look in the archive section. It kind of seem this person has disappered from the net, because of this I would normally say delete but it seems that alot of people like article. Wikipedia already has alot of myspace artist and what not. This doesn't look like it's one of those. This seem to be real verifiable information. I think that the article should be keep and the sources updated. A Picture would also be nice. - Will N. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.233.0.53 (talk) 16:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. I attempted to prod it at first, but failed. The arguments for deletion have been laid forth (simply not enough notability) and I trust they will be enough, but I'd like to point out that this article has already been deleted once: 22:58, 29 August 2006 (aeropagitica) (Talk | contribs) deleted "Randall Thornberry" ‎ (Nonsense article) Jobjörn (talk) 18:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —Pixelface (talk) 19:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Non-notable, unsourcable tripe. sparkl!sm hey! 20:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Google search of '"Randall Thornberry" -wikipedia' reveals official pages, and lyrics pages. Not much in the way of independent sources. Article is entirely unsourced. Perhaps sources can be found, but even so, perhaps the article should be rewritten beginning with these sources, in which case a delete would be acceptable. If the sources cannot be found, then he fails notability and doesn't appear to deserve his own article on WP. -Verdatum (talk) 21:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - there are no reliable sources to establish notability -- Whpq (talk) 18:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


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