Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rachel larkin

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The result was Delete --JForget 23:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rachel larkin

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Fails WP:ATHLETE. A barely-18-year-old green belt for whom the only sources [1] come from her martial arts school. Unlikely to be improved from here. Article created by an SPA.  RGTraynor  12:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete getting to green belt isn't really a claim of notability in itself. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Does winning a national Under-18 title meet the barest or bare bones for notability? Wildthing61476 (talk) 15:46, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• Reply: Not when the site claiming she did is affiliated with her martial arts club, and there are no reliable sources referencing it. This may also be a case of the Eddie the Eagle being the UK's champion ski jumper syndrome; how many underage female jujitsu practitioners are there in New Zealand? Beyond that, my own martial arts days are a couple decades past, but back in the day, a green belt wouldn't have gotten you high odds of being the top underage fighter in your own dojo, let alone a national championship; it's a rank not far above a novice in most belt-ranking disciplines.  RGTraynor  17:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Based on the information provided by RGTraynor. Thanks for filling me in there, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't over-looking something that could be seen at note-worthy. Wildthing61476 (talk) 17:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. -- BelovedFreak 16:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- BelovedFreak 16:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete Nothing important about this person.Electricbassguy (talk) 03:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Was already speedied (today actually), but I'd recommend letting this run to G4 it next time. Ladies and gentleman, we have blatant vanity: [2] notice the URL and the article creator's username. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 07:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

SJJNZ is the official sporting body for Sport Jujitsu in New Zealand, as recognised by SPARC. The titles are legitimate. Rachel would be considered one of New Zealand's top junior female fighters which I think remarkable. I would think that most of the comments above are made by people with limited or no knowledge of Sport Jujitsu in this part of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.90.73.175 (talk) 10:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Presuming SPARC does certify this outfit, it's a New Zealand governmental association. The International Sport Jujitsu Association recognizes the New Zealand Sport Jujitsu Association [3] as being the official sport jujitsu body.  RGTraynor  12:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Different grade structures occur at different clubs. As an example to get a black belt at judo might take 2-3 years, while for jujitsu a black belt might take 6 years. Belt colour should be an issue in this case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.160.118.69 (talk) 06:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

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