Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RAW is Owen (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Owen Hart. Let's put this one to bed. Deizio talk 15:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The result was No Consensus. Davnel03 21:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Upon admin review of non-admin closure, the discussion is re-opened. Even admins aren't supposed to close discussions they participate in, and this hasn't run the full five days. Discussion may continue.--Kchase T 22:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RAW is Owen

Note - not added to AfD log when nominated. Added as of this timestamp. Deizio talk 16:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete: This is a normal RAW except it has been dedicated to Owen Hart. It should not be singled out due to this. Also, we will not remember last weeks RAW for years will we? Davnel03 17:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Note from closing admin in previous AfD - There has been no material change in the content of the page or nomination since the previous AfD in October. This return to AfD was first proposed yesterday by User:86.20.53.195 who is currently serving a 48hr block for inserting "CUNT" on my userpage [1] after I discussed with him the ins-and-outs of a second nomination for this article. I noted then and note here again that User:Davnel03 shares extremely similar editing habits and interests with 86.20.53.195, and from that and the contact I had with these editors yesterday I believe them to be the same user, although this cannot be confirmed without a checkuser. If that is the case, then the nominator here is a sockpuppet of a currently blocked user. I would be interested to hear if User:Davnel03 would be happy for such a check to take place. Deizio talk 17:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Not really notable and precedent has been set since the last afd, the tributes to Eddie Guerrero page was removed, various other "raw specials" like homecoming and such have been deleted, and tribute to the troops will be deleted soon. And this creates a non-npov slant, anything about the page that needs to be said can be put on Owen's main page. Booshakla 10:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete One single tribute to Owen Hart is not notable. Better placed on his page but not in separate article.--John Lake 16:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment in that case, don't you mean merge instead of delete? Koweja 20:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with the main owen heart article or with the Raw article NegroSuave 19:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Owen Hart. Koweja 20:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge ot Owen Hart. I remember this show, but I don't remember the show officially being called by that name. Is there an official cite for that (from WWE)? Is the show available on tape or DVD for sale under that name? If there is, keep it, if not, either move the title to the "official" name or merge it. In any event, this was not "just a normal show". Odd...there's nothing about his death at all on the Owen Hart page. UsaSatsui 22:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Nevermind, fixed that. UsaSatsui 22:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Nothing has changed since the last nomination, and that it appears that this nomination was done in bad faith. kelvSYC 08:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment You are dead wrong on that. Since the last nomination, the Tributes to Eddie Guerrero page, which is quite similar to this, was merged/deleted

[2], not to mention that most other "special" editions of RAW have also been deleted: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. So based on that precedent, there is no reason for this article to be there as well, a merge to Owen Hart is also acceptable.

I still maintain my original argument that it was the first notable in-ring death in pro-wrestling (or at least for WWE), and the first wrestler to have been tributed from their passing while an active member of the WWE roster, and as such it should be kept. kelvSYC 17:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Merge and Delete I have had a good look at the page and at Owen Hart's page. I think this can be scaled down and easily fitted into his profile/article. But this type of event will probably become available on DVD in the future. They haven't made an Owen Hart DVD yet, but probably will. Govvy 10:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge with Owen Hart Fairly importent show, but i'm not sure if it deserves an article. TJ Spyke 23:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Owen Hart. This deserves mention, but probably does not deserve its own article. (Though for what it's worth, if I had to choose between outright keep or outright delete, I'd go with keep.) Croctotheface 09:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Owen Hart. James Duggan 03:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. Seeing as how it was already successfully merged now, I think we can close this. --Wizardman 15:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.