Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Queen of the Land
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Evidence of reliable third-party coverage would have been good here. If some exists I will undelete. W.marsh 23:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Queen of the Land
Does not look suitable to wikipedia, at least as its own article. I invite discussion. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 19:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- 14,000 Google hits seem OK for an Irish festival (like this one). I am hesitant to add to systemic bias by urging a delete from the other side of the ocean. Article is not well-linked, but not orphaned, either. It is a dead-end that desperately needs cleanup. Keep and cleanup per WP:LOCAL as Ireland appears to be underrepresented in Wikipedia.B.Wind 02:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Re: "14,000 Google hits," I'm guessing you searched for "queen of the land". If so, I suppose many (most?) of those hits have nothing to do with this festival. Pan Dan 13:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- The festival is an important one in Ireland and deserves its place. There is need for cleaning up of the article but it is informative and relatively unbiased. I would keep it. FN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.22.108 (talk • contribs)
- I have cleaned up the article somewhat. I would say it should stay as it is a bona fida recognised festival in Ireland even though you probably havent heard of it in the USA. It is very similar to the Rose of Tralee festival which has a wikipedia page. If you delete this page you might as well delete that one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fnannery (talk • contribs)
- Comment "A topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the subject itself." (from WP:Notability). The article does not establish notability. Regarding Rose of Tralee, that article also does not establish notability, but inclusion is not an indicator of notability. -- Chondrite 20:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep and cleanup. The article implies that it is a nationally important festival in Ireland. If this is true then the claim needs to be sourced and made explicit. Other statements need sources, and the whole article needs wikification so its no-longer a dead end. I'm not 100% certain its notable, but I'm willing to give it a chance to prove it. If nothing changes after a couple of months then by all means nominate it again. Thryduulf 01:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment re: "The article implies that it is a nationally important festival," I don't see that the article implies that. And, looking at the Google hits, such as this one, I get the impression it's only of local importance. Pan Dan 13:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per the comment of Chondrite -- there is no indication of notability here. There seem to be no non-trivial external sources on this festival that we can use to write a good verifiable Wikipedia article. A Google search for "queen of the land" Ireland yields 207 unique hits: some have nothing to do with this festival, others are blogs, others are trivial "things-for-tourists-to-do-and-see-in-Ireland" types. Pan Dan 13:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability not established. WMMartin 20:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.