Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Proto-Ionians

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no concensus. Fabrictramp (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proto-Ionians

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Article consists almost entirely of WP:OR from a Mr. Faucounau, seemingly advocating a theory of his which doesn't seem to reflect a scholarly mainstream view in the field. I do not see why Wikipedia should have an article on this. henrik•talk 17:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

  • weak keep, else merge into a brief note at Proto-Greek and/or Ionians. WP:OR doesn't apply, these theories are published. What does apply is WP:NOTE. It's a fringe theory that has received some (minor) academic attention. The background of this is that this Faucounau was trolling the Phaistos Disc article, and we ended up giving him his own article because he kept harping on how he did get some (less than enthusiastic) academic reviews. dab (𒁳) 17:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  •  : Point taken about OR. However, anyone sufficiently motivated can pay to have their books published. The publisher for at least Le déchiffrement du Disque de Phaistos is L'Harmattan, which seems to be a low-cost, low-quality publisher leaving much of the fact checking and editing to the authors themselves[1]. henrik•talk 17:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Probably best to merge this elsewhere. Notable enough for Wikipedia, maybe not for its own article. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 17:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge what is notable into another article.--Berig (talk) 17:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment Actually, L'Harmattan is a well-respected, noted French publisher. No opinion on the article. Rhinoracer (talk) 10:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Merge into appropriate article with note - not WP:OR but fails WP:NOTE. --Shruti14 t c s 23:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:NOR. Yahel Guhan 02:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge Despite I also must disagree regarding L'Harmattan (I recoil with horror at the thought of what would Francophone African studies be without them) I also agree that this topic here is pretty fringe. Also, by my knowledge, L'Harmattan points mainly to offer a vast choice of titles, which makes it the first French publishing house for titles put on the market, but also means that they don't make a strict selections of the manuscripts submitted.--Aldux (talk) 22:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


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