Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prom baby

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 14:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prom baby

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I am not convinced that this is an actual phenomenon, apart from the general proposition that teenagers often have sex on prom night. The only source cited is a letter by a random man published in the "Dear Abby" column, who says he got this information from his teenage daughter. This is clearly not a reliable source, and I haven't been able to find anything else by googling. See other people's takes on this at [1]; they suggest it may have been an urban legend started by a family guy episode. Calliopejen1 02:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• Delete I would not consider 'Dear Abby' as a reliable source. DarkAudit 02:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - looks like a non-notable neologism to me. There are three references, but the only one which has anything to do with this article isn't reliable --Haemo 02:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Note that "Abby" herself (Jeanne Phillips) did not assert that she had heard of this trend before; she just treated "Worried Dad"'s claim as though it were true. "Worried Dad" cannot be confirmed to be a reliable source. --Metropolitan90 03:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I had a feeling this would pop up after I read it in the paper yesterday. Anyone could've written that letter to AvB, and we have no way to know if this is an actual term out in the world beyond syndicated newspaper advice columns or the POV of Worried in Alpharetta. Most of the g-hits under "prom baby" currently lead back to this column syndicated on various paper sites, and other uses of the terms are not in the venacular of purposeful pregnancy. Nate 04:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete the information can't be verified. This was linked from the prom article which (embarrassingly) is on my watchlist, but I removed the link because I couldn't find any evidence that this was anything other than teenage silliness. (As an aside, if anyone wants to help improve the prom article, it's really a wreck...) --JayHenry 04:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, unlikely WP:NEO and very much WP:SYN, as the article connects the concepts of conceiving a baby on prom night with other aspects of teen pregnancy. Has the smell of a deliberate moral panic about it.--Dhartung | Talk 04:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete- per WP:NEO Thunderwing 14:27, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete One letter to an advice columnist is inadequate sourcing. Besides, it is patent nonsense. Doubtless intercourse sometimes takes place on prom night, and that sometimes pregnancy results. The same could be said for Homecoming Night, The Eve of St. Agnes, or any other random night (or day), and all would have the claimed effect of the girl deferring her college education. Delete this to avoid having articles like St. Agnes Eve baby (alas, poor Madeline!). Edison 17:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not a reliable source. --Charlene 18:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. Should this be redirected to teenage pregnancy, to direct readers to related (and factual) information, and to prevent recreation of this article? Calliopejen1 00:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The day this article appeared in Dear Abby I googled the term, and there were no references to babies being conceived on prom night apart from the Dear Abby column itself. The term appeared to sometimes be used to refer to a baby born on prom night, but there were absolutely no references to this phenomenon before the Dear Abby column. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.102.62.241 (talk) 23:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
• Delete. The first half of the article is based on a letter to Dear Abby, which is not a reliable source, and the second half is basically just a repetition of information that is already available at Teenage pregnancy. -Severa (!!!) 19:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Move to wiktionary It seems like the kind of page which will never grow beyond a dictionary definition. --Bachrach44 14:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I see that you added a move to wiktionary tag, which I removed for now. You can re-add the tag if it's the consensus of the discussion, but if this is a hoax/urban legend it shouldn't be in wiktionary either. Calliopejen1 20:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.