Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Professor John Rickard

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (closed by non-admin). RMHED (talk) 21:48, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Professor John Rickard

Professor John Rickard (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Unsourced. Dubious mitrebox (talk) 06:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

references added--Bgonch (talk) 06:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

• Current Delete - Unless notability can be asserted. The text states consultations and journal articles... use these as references and as external links to express notability and this can be considered a keep "vote" instead. VigilancePrime (talk) 07:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep notability per WP:PROF established. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Nick Dowling (talk) 04:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:46, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Strong keep "President and Vice Chancellor of Central Queensland University? etc etc etc. included a named chair-- all of which can be sourced from official sources at the various universities. What does the nom think "dubious"? whether university presidents are notable? whether he was a university president? whether everything put out by the university is an internet fraud? DGG (talk) 06:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, per DGG. The President/Vice Chancellor of a major university should be enough alone. The links are to his faculty page, which provide appropriate verification of this fact. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep He is the Vice-Chancellor of a university. This is the senior executive role at universities in Australia as the Chancellor's role is basically a ceremonial one. As such he is clearly notable and relevant sources will be found. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 20:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. Of course, VCs in Australia are notable. There will be masses of sources. --Bduke (talk) 06:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

note--the article has been moved to John Rickard (academia). I'm not sure its the ideal title, but its an improvement. The other John Rickeard in a UK economist & public servant & he is an Australian economist, so maybe nationality is the distinction to use. DGG (talk) 09:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

He's originaly English, so nationality wouldn't be a good distinction. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Even if the title as exists at present is kept, it should be "academic" not "academia". JRG (talk) 11:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I chose "academia" rather then "academic" becasue as he's currently a Vice-Chancellor, he's more of a school leader then a teacher. But I don't have a major issue if it is moved to "academic". --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

• Speedy keep per above, given that VCs in Australia are notable and being unsourced is not a deletion reason (though notability is). JRG (talk) 11:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment. It doesn't bother me whether this is kept, but how does being a VC satisfy WP:BIO and exactly how does this person meet WP:PROF? Publishing lots of papers doesn't equate to notability in Wikipedia. Otherwise, the article falls foul of WP:N. Assize (talk) 02:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Publishing a large number of articles and/or books should be in the guideline if it is not explicitly. Do they not exist because they have only appeared in peer-reviewed journals and not the popular press? That might cut out a large swath of past academics who didn't have a popular press to dumb down their research for them. Ansell 04:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep No questions about a VC, or even any Australian academic who gets to the level of Professor, they can't get there without being notable in a field. Ansell 04:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.