Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Probie

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Probie

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Dictionary definition. Unreferenced for more than a year. Mikeblas (talk) 16:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete and add to Wiktionary. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 17:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   jj137 (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Shorten and move to Wikitionary. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 00:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - WP:NOT#DIC, WP:NEO. move merge with (expand upon) wiktionary [1]. Tiptoety talk 01:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, but rename to probationary firefighter to make it more than a dictdef. Google hints that "probationary firefighter" might be a notable term — it's certainly in use, and there might be substantial material to add to the article. -- Lea (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. The newbie/apprentice/probationary phase of a particular profession should be covered in the appropriate article for that profession. It's likely that probie could be merged with a term like rookie if that one weren't devoted entirely to the athletic variety. --Dhartung | Talk 04:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: Dictdef, and the features of being a probational officer are relevant to the articles on the professions. This seems to be in existence for a lexical purpose -- so folks watching Stargate can look up what the word means -- i.e. the "in popular culture" drives the article, and that's backwards for an encyclopedia article. Utgard Loki (talk) 13:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. This already exists in Wiktionary, but it could be expanded there. – jaksmata 19:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. This seems to go considerably beyond a dictdef to me. A dictdef is usually a one-line sub-stub that is nothing more than the title's definition. This is, excluding the trivia section, a nice three paragraph stub article that goes well beyond a dictdef. I'm unmoved by the "unreferenced for more than a year" argument. AFD is not cleanup, and Wikipedia has no deadlines. I don't think this should be merged into firefighter, given that "Probie" is not used throughout the world. Putting it there would introduce a geographic bias to North American firefighters. I agree with LeaW that this could (and maybe should) be renamed to probationary firefighter-- ShinmaWa(talk) 00:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.