Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Mako of Akishino

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep per WP:SNOWBALL and self withdrawal. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 15:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Princess Mako of Akishino

Not inheritley notale, makes no claim to be notable just royal cruft. (I'm also nominating Princess Mako of Akishino) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 06:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep - Wikipedia:Notability (nobility), although an essay, brings up some good points. In the future, I can see this article becoming much more expansive. There's really no need to delete it. -Zapptastic (talk) 06:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
    • In the future, maybe. At preset, doubtful. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 06:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep; as the mother of the new lineal male heir to the Japanese throne, she is pretty much permanently notable given the wide interest in the Japanese royal family and line of succession. Wikipedia:Notability (nobility) would argue keep as well. --MCB 07:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Shes a bit young to be a mother, dont you think. She is only 15? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 07:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, although I think MCB has his princesses mixed up. :-) Wikipedia:Notability (nobility) clearly has her down as notable - "children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, and cousins of the reigning monarch", she is Emperor Akihito's granddaughter. --Stormie 07:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Thats not policy, and has been stated by its author has the intents to make every royal notable. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 07:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Indeed, it is not official policy, but it's a sensible set of guidelines which I'm in broad agreement with. Seems pretty clear from this discussion that there is a solid consensus that granddaughters of emperors are notable, as Wikipedia:Notability (nobility) would have it. —Stormie 09:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, we have notability guidelines to ensure that we're writing about people prominent enough to meet verifiability and avoid original research. As a member of the current royal family and subject of media attention, she seems to meet that standard. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 07:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I think there is an inherent notability attached to royalty, namely because of the media attention that is attracted by it. Furthermore, Japan is a rather large segment of internet readership who probably view grandchildren of the Emperor just as notable as Jeb Bush, Jr. or even Maureen Reagan. 205.157.110.11 07:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Msod 08:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep notable and significant member of the Japanese royal family with current international media coverage. The kid itself will be notable as well unlike Jolie-Pitts or Beckhams. MLA 08:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
    • How will it be notable; How do you know? Are you a tme traveler? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Edit conflict comment - was intending to change my comment to reflect that the information in the article isn't quite right and should specifically refer to Kiko but that this is still a very notable person. The kid in question is already notable with worldwide media coverage and is an important part of a current Japanese political and sociological debate. MLA 09:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Important member of Japanese royal family. Fg2 09:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per 205.157.110.11 above -- I@n 09:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Night Gyr. Neier 09:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Per Fg2. No less notable than other royals who have articles. Barnas 11:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: I was waiting for this one. Alot of those royals have also been AfD'd (I've nom'd about 5 (maybe more)) -- That comparison always pops up. It wouldnt exist if each AfD didnt compare articles and make comparisons. What i want to ask though: Has she done anything notable? Has she recieved any press (ie. not fly by as in "There new son is the brother of Keiko and Meiko et cetera") - Where they in mass press when they where born? There son is inheritley notable being the first male to the line in x years and for being in press. I'd suggest these two non-notables be redirected to a parent. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 12:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - some english language news coverage, undoubtably far more in Japanese. Encyclopaedic, whatever you're looking for. No arguments have been presented for deletion, nor can I think of any. WilyD 13:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable enough to have her own article. The article would be helpful to anyone researching the Japanese royal family. Thε Halo Θ 13:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep per all above, and suggest early closure of this AfD. The members of royal houses are notable per se. - Smerdis of Tlön 14:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Royal folk are inherently notable per all such comments above. Sad but true. Pan Dan 14:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.