Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prehistoric Finns in Americas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. Jacoplane 06:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prehistoric Finns in Americas

• del. Not suitable for encycopedia. An overblown article title for DNA research of some american bones and 2-3 Finns, which can lead to nothing conclusive yet. mikka (t) 01:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be deleted as well. This is hardly a substantiated claim at this time, and contains serious hyperbole. Sukiari 02:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - reads like an article from a newspaper rather than an encyclopaedia, and is original research. Hairy Dude 02:57, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per all above. Royboycrashfan 05:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, I agree, this is more like a newspaper article than an encyclopedia article. Also it looks like Original Research. JIP | Talk 07:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete, I remember pretty well that substantially the same text was deleted the other day under a slightly different title (something with First Finns in America or so.) Obviously for POV reasons. Lukas ^(T.|@) 09:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
• I'm all for this thing, if it means we Finns can claim ownership of America. ...what? Hey, it worked for Scrooge McDuck. --Agamemnon2 12:58, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comprehensive rewrite. Delete. A good subject for a WP article on this material would be "Haplogroup X (mtDNA)", along the lines of some of the other DNA lineage articles that can be found linked off the Haplogroup article. The mitochondrial DNA group X is quite interesting for the early population history of the United States. It has been suggested it may be linked to the Solutrean culture, excavated in SW France, which may have been associated with extensive maritime activity along the fringes of the Atlantic ice-age ice sheets, similar in technology to modern-day Inuit culture. In particular, it is suggested that the Solutreans may have brought the original stone-working technology underlying the ubiquitous later Clovis point to the Americas, which seems to have spread out from the east of the modern-day United States, in contrast to most of the paleoamerican population which is thought to have originated ultimately from Asia, and spread in from the west. I would therefore suggest that there is useful material which should be strip-mined from this article first, before deletion. -- Jheald 11:48, 8 February 2006 (UTC).

Curiously, haplogroup X isn't particularly associated with the Finns; it's more common around the Mediterranean, the Near East and the Caucasus. If as it seems this report dates back to the mid 1990s, then much more is now known, and I think there is now not much after all that remains to be usefully extracted from this old sensation piece. The article Haplogroup X (mtDNA) is now up and in place, if there is anything anyone else thinks should be saved and added. -- Jheald 22:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC).

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.