Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pregnant Ranma problem

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants to mention this in the character article (and has a source), and just needs the text from this article, let me know and I'll undelete. W.marsh 16:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pregnant Ranma Problem

This article is a discussion about something speculated in the fan community of Ranma 1/2. Ranma was never pregnant or implied to be pregnant anywhere in the anime series or the manga so it is an irrelevant article.  - Mizi 20:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as uncitable fancruft. Google search for "pregnant ranma problem" returns just the Wikipedia entry and various Wikipedia mirrors. NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 20:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. This isn't Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex (which was published by a notable author, Larry Niven). ColourBurst 20:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fanfic nonsense that slipped through the cracks. Danny Lilithborne 21:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. The article was decent, only now it's accumulated a thick layer of cruft that direly needs to be wiped off. That said, I can't dispute the Google results. --Kizor 21:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. If we cleaned off the fancruft we'd have an empty article. SVI 01:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not really, it has a valid core of a plot element that makes intuitive but not actual sense. Anataeus here makes a good point, though. I'll get on it. --Kizor 07:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I believe that it is verifiable (although I myself don't have the references) that Takahashi has been asked about what would happen if Ranma got pregnant and responded "I don't think about that and neither should you." That fact, I think, could usefully be noted somewhere in the other Ranma articles. The rest of the article looks like straight original research/neologism to me. -- Antaeus Feldspar 03:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Qiszxo 08:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because it's original research; however, the argument that it wasn't referenced in the manga/anime is really irrelevent to the topic at hand -- Ranma was until fairly recently far and away the anime with the strongest fanfiction presence on the web, and the pregnant issue came up a LOT. I have in fact heard of this outside WP, but I would agree it's not noteworthy or anything. People really ought to stop bashing everything little thing simply because they had never heard of it before. The Takahashi quote, I'm seen links to the interview with it before, for what it's worth. All said, the best thing to say is WP:NFT. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 12:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Melodia, I'm not basing my delete argument on not having heard it before, because I have heard it before. I'm basing it on the fact that most fanfiction are not reliable sources, and therefore cannot be used to support the article. One quote from the author that says the topic is best left untouched seems to support the deletion. ColourBurst 19:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to the article on the Ranma character, though not too much. FrozenPurpleCube 16:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions -Mizi 19:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• After some time to more fully examine the article, my official belief on what should be done: source the Takahashi quote and include it in one of the other Ranma 1/2 articles; delete all the rest as original research/neologism. -- Antaeus Feldspar 21:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge verifiable facts to a Ranma 1/2 article (and delete the rest) per Antaeus Feldspar. The question seems to be a genuinely common one in Ranma fandom, but the term itself does not seem to be common in the anime community even for this specific question. (If no source can easily be found for the Takahashi quote, merge to a suitable talk page instead to allow fans to perform further research.) — Haeleth Talk 08:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per the previous two editors, if the question is common enough within the fandom to have merited a quote from the author, but not common elsewhere. The question is raised with other gender-changing fiction, but the term is not used universally. AlmostReadytoFly 00:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Unsourced. Interrobamf 03:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.