Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prathap C. Reddy

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep ~ trialsanderrors 10:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prathap C. Reddy

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I removed the speedy tag on this article because the article does contain assertions of importance. Whether there is substance to these is debatable, and that's what AfD is for. Being a procedural nomination, I abstain. — Saxifrage ✎ 22:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy Delete Completly fails WP:BIO scope_creep 23:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Note that failing WP:BIO isn't a reason to speedy-delete. If it were this wouldn't be at AfD. — Saxifrage ✎ 00:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as an unverified biography lacking in sources and references, unless suitable reliable sources can be found in the next five days. (aeropagitica) 23:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep asserts obvious notability (health-care pioneer), pending sources. but why 5 days? the initial nom. & that proviso can only help to keep WP hopelessly lop-sided. articles don't go for lacking refs. we have {{references|article}} for that. → bsnowball 17:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Note that asserting notability is only enough to keep an article from being deleted on-sight, not for keeping at AfD. The usual metric for AfD is whether it can be demonstrated to be notable. There is certainly information out there on him[1], but finding indepedent coverage is the litmus test we're going for. This press release about an award given to him might qualify as independent as it's a press release by the awarding organisation rather than him or his hospital group. (It's mentioned again here in the paper The Hindu, and here again, but since they're repeats they all together only count as one instance of coverage for notability's criteria.) More evidence like this will show that he's notable enough to have an article. An argument could also be made that he's made a "widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field" by founding the private health industry in India, but that would require more digging to substantiate. — Saxifrage ✎ 18:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. As references I would add the following press release [2]from John's Hopkins. While not 'independent' it asserts that Apollo Hospitals is the largest private hospital group in Asia. The Washington Post makes a similar assertion.[3] That's pretty significant. For me the question is whether being the founder and CEO of a large company confers some level of notability upon the founder. I would say that there is some there. Montco 21:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
    There's some, but it's not very much. The notability requirements are designed to make sure that there is sufficient independent coverage of the specific subject of an article so that it can be written in line with Verifiability policy by people who aren't already intimately familiar with the subject (and so also satisfy NPOV policy). So, we really do need sources specifically about Dr. Reddy. If we can't find any now, it's possible that he'll get more coverage in the future and so be ready for Wikipedia then. — Saxifrage ✎ 08:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I agree to Montco though the article needs clean up IA (talk) 11:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - He is the founder of the most well known hospital chain in India and one of the first names that springs to mind when one thinks of doctors or even entrepreneurs. Will try adding some refs -- Lost(talk) 13:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Lost. He is a significant pioneer in providing world-class healthcare in India and developing medical tourism as an economic sector. Mereda 13:57, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Now I've added a 2001 reference from Business Line which describes him as the "best person in India to talk about the provision of healthcare services as a business proposition." He also seems to be a pioneer in telemedicine but I've added that point to Apollo Hospitals. OK? Mereda 14:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Definitely Notable. Not notable as a doctor, but notable as a health care pioneer. Please use the correct criteria for deleting an article. Any article can be deleted by listing under the wrong category and looking for some other criteria for notability. I cannot understand why this has been called as failing WP:BIO (The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field). A search at google, even within inverted quotes gives hundreds of pages and coverage from major media.  Doctor Bruno  16:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Per Lost, Mereda and article. Very influencial business person in the medical industry in India. --Oakshade 16:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Speedy Keep - None has the right to question the notability of a Padmabhushan award winner. It is one of the highest honour given by India government. In addition to that we have to give more weightage to User:Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas comments because he is an expert in medical field since he is also a doctor.  Nileena joseph (Talk|Contribs) 04:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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