Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Portuguese Discovery of Australia

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The result of the debate was redirect to European exploration of Australia. Dmcdevit·t 03:32, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Portuguese Discovery of Australia

Its useful contents have already been merged (or rewritten) to European exploration of Australia, where discussion on the supposed Portuguese discovery of Australia should take place. In the study of Australian history, the theory of Portuguese discovery is not widely believed, or, for that matter, given much credence. As such, it doesn't necessarily warrant an article of its own, or at least not one as brief and sub-standard as this (its creator has shown no intention of expanding it). This is why it has been merged (in a sense) with the abovementioned article. So, delete. Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:19, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Redirect to European exploration of Australia as all the useful information has been merged. KeithD 09:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Yes. Delete. The Ogre 12:42, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and allow for organic growth. Please don't use your POV of this topic as a reason for deletion. Kappa 13:59, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

If this was directed towards me, I must object. My point-of-view is not the basis for my nomination. If I were truly biased, I would have circumvented community opinion rather than seek consensus (as I'm doing), wouldn't I? If the topic can be explored neutrally and extensively, I am not opposed to it having its own article. As it is, all that can be said has been at European exploration of Australia.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

• merge with European exploration of Australia and then redirect. title is inherently non-neutral. clarkk 14:12, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to European exploration of Australia. --malathion ^talk 14:54, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to European exploration of Australia to avoid further POV forking. Dcarrano 16:34, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to European exploration of Australia. Themindset 17:10, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge/delete, no redirect. Pavel Vozenilek 23:36, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect since the merge is already done.--nixie 23:38, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect per nixie. --bainer (talk) 02:22, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand- this is a topic studied by Australian high school history students (eg my year 8 son last term), with a view to getting the students to understand and evaluate conflicting source materials. There is some compelling evidence in favour of the Portugese discovery but there are some key facts which highlight why it is very probably not the case. As at this time the merge / rewrite into European exploration of Australia does not do the topic justice, in particular missing out on the Dieppe Maps. When my son started this topic, I came to Wikipedia and was dissappointed at the paucity of material here and in particular the lack of reference to these maps.--AYArktos 02:28, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep ... I originally thought "delete/merge" but I just went and played with it a bit and I'm happier now. I think it should remain as a discussion of the theory and its various views and counter-views, while European exploration just mentions the subject among other possible early European sightings. --Skud 03:22, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand, as per AYArktos. JamesBurns 07:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect as above. Radiant_>|< 10:54, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as original research. Ambi 12:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment - Wikipedia:No original research (offical policy) states: "Original research refers to original research by editors of Wikipedia. It does not refer to original research that is published or available elsewhere". The topic of this article is an historical theory that is much published elsewhere - even in high school materials!--AYArktos 00:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect as merged. Smerdis of Tlön 16:43, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

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