Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Political parties on the Left

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Punkmorten 22:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Political parties on the Left, Political parties on the right

Parties can be listed ideologically, not on the basis of Left or Right, which is ambiguous. Henceforth I suggest deletion of these two articles. Intangible 02:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, To the left or right of what? --DarkAudit 02:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Very problematic POV and opinions. Nobody can even agree on the definitions. Fan1967 02:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete You could label as conservative and liberal, but that opens another can of worms. It's too difficult to manage. Maybe if there was one solid list of political parties. I'm not sure. Yanksox ^(talk) 02:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless someone can convince me these are capable of being even close to WP:NPOV. Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 02:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, blatantly fails WP:NPOV. --Coredesat 03:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete this classification is totally meaningless for a large number of countries and parties. Possibly all of them. Opabinia regalis 04:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete Most of what I have seen is fairly accurate, but only in a general sense; it really is opinion only, regardless of whether many people agree with the classification. Jammo (SM247) 05:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep The actual list seems fairly accurate, and fairly NPOV to me. Maybe in theory left and right are too ambiguous, but in practice it seems to work out fine. -- C mon 08:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Very POV. Looking at the UK there are glaring errors. Nuttah68 09:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. "Left" and "right" mean totally different things in different countries (eg in the UK, they are an economic and social metric; whereas in Israel they are seen as in relation to a party's position on the Palestinians). Indeed, in some countries, the terms are actually utterly meaningless. Thus this page is just not ever going to be able to be correct; hence it is inevitably POV. Batmanand | Talk 09:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: looks POV to me. The debate is often phrased in terms of radical / conservative now as well, with radicals just as likely to be on the left or right. Stephen B Streater 09:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. POV in nature, and unprecise, as it depends upon the country. --Kristjan Wager 16:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Impossible for these lists _not_ to be POV. Tevildo 18:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete It would be impossible for this article to remain within POV rules. doktorb | words 19:55, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Either delete or find some way to merge with Political spectrum or appropriate categories. However, finding some sort of objective criteria or sources for verifying this list may be tricky. אמר Steve Caruso _(poll) 22:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment (I have no opinion on whether this should be kept in list form) The study of ideology is done of a pretty scientific level, and most parliamentary parties fall on one side of the left-right (lib-con in the U.S.) spectrum with respect to each other. There are also strong commonalities between parties on the same side across countries. So the terms "left" and "right" aren't quite as POV as some people think. That doesn't mean this list is unproblematic, it just means that you can identify parties as "left" and "right" in an NPOV, scientific way. ~ trialsanderrors 23:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Only if you can actually identify "left" and "right" positions on different issues. Protective tariffs - left or right? Deficit spending - L or R? Immigration limits - L or R? Agricultural and business subsidies - L or R? Foreign intervention - L or R? I have no idea, especially as the American parties keep swapping positions. No, the whole set of labels is inherently POV. Fan1967 14:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete No one will agree on right and left and breaking the parties up this way eliminates a bunch of important ones. Ace of Sevens 00:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, endless POV and cultural bias issues here. Grandmasterka 06:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.