Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokemon Platinum

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. When this AFD started, the only source that would have "confirmed" this was a picture that might have been from Corocoro. However, since then, Nintendo Japan has officially announced this, giving us a reliable source. The Placebo Effect (talk) How's my editing? Please contribute to my editor review. 16:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pokémon Platinum

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Nothing on the page complies with WP:BALL. Nothing official has been released (to the best of my knowledge and google searching).
EDIT: Not even confirmed by the developer! asenine say what? 15:12, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

From what I can find, it seems not. asenine say what? 17:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Pokemon Platinum has been confirmed in a CoroCoro scan. CoroCoro is a Japanese publication that often announces the release of new games. It seems to be a legit form of proof on the new game. Roo2010 (talk) 18:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
CoroCoro is not Nintendo. Unless Nintendo itself confirms this, this is crystal-ballism, which is explicitly disallowed. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 04:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Believe me, KoroKoro is Nintendo. The magazine has been a promotional vehicle for Nintendo for a long time, and has always been the first to announce new Pokemon games. If the KoroKoro talks serious about a new Pokemon game, there is almost certainly something going on. Not enough to write an article about, but worth a mention at Pokémon video game series at this time. Cheers, Face 11:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Merge w/ Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Wikipedia is not a rumor mill, and that's all this article is. The fact that the only source it had is a fansite (which fails WP:RS makes this look more and more like the Titanic. A merge at this point would be best, largely due to the only links for info being fansites (and, despite what A. Exeunt says, WP:POKE has had issues with Serebii sourcing because they appear to not have any editorial oversight; these issues caused the species megamerger). -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 04:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete - the list at the bottom makes it look like there might be enough info to build an article, but it needs sourcing. I'd be happy to change my vote if adequate sourcing is provided, and I suspect most would be. McJeff (talk) 05:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
As it is, the series' developer hasn't announced anything yet, and the only information available is from a fansite. I wouldn't be surprised if same list was on that fansite. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 06:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
In that case, vote amended. McJeff (talk) 05:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, for now - Merge - But we'll be one of the first to revive it if sufficient official information becomes available. - Face 11:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I can't believe I voted Delete. Some information should be put in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, so that's a Merge of course. Now that I look at the article's talk however, I see there has already been a war about this... I still stand behind my redirect proposal btw: Pokemon Platinum redirect to Pokémon Platinum, Pokémon Platinum redirect to Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Cheers, Face 19:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
That would be a double redirect though. What should really be done is have both Pokemon Platinum and Pokémon Platinum redirect to Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, then when the article is split, redirect Pokemon Platinum to Pokémon Platinum.-Jeff (talk) 01:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Even reliable self-published sources like Serebii.net seem to make no mention of it. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 11:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Serebii.net does mention it (and was one of the first who did). In fact, it just published a second high resolution scan of the KoroKoro page, which confirms the Autumn 2008 release. I must say I look forward to further developments. - Face 12:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - Pokémon Platinum, with accented e, is currently a redirect to Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. I inserted the content of Pokemon Platinum in this page, and then changed it back to a redirect. That way, anyone can revive the article easily, and I think that redirect should not be deleted because of that reason. In fact, I think Pokemon Platinum should actually be a redirect to Pokémon Platinum. Cheers, Face 13:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep Keep it for now. When it's denied by Nintendo we delete ;) CoroCoro never gets things wrong. I know it's not official but what the hell, people, use your minds. LuGiADude (talk) 14:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep CoroCoro is a reliable source. TheLeftorium (talk) 16.27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep If you can't trust CoroCoro for information on this kind of thing by now, then there's something awry. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 00:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Corocoro is a reliable source, and i say we keep the article until more information is avaliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metagraph (talk • contribs) 07:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep: The existance of the game is supported by neutral, third party sources. Likely, the information in this article will expand once more information concerning the production of this game will come forth.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 09:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge to Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Sceptre (talk) 10:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep: Lots of other games have been articled months before their release (Super Smash Bros. Brawl, par example), and this is definitely going to be a popular release, so why not create a separate article, featuring differences and general material. Corocoro is a reliable source for new gaming information, and besides, it's not like we can't edit it once new information is released. I believe Pokemon Yellow, Crystal and Emerald had the same treatment, so why not the 4th Generation version? 12:11, 14 Mat 2008 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.167.51 (talk)
  • Keep Certainly would be notable later.  Marlith (Talk)  23:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge to Pokémon video game series. This doesn't have much information in the article now, but when it does, I'd love to see it at its own article, expended. I am not saying that stub is a bad idea, I'm just saying it's even better idea to let the stub be in another article until it's no longer a stub. Look at articles like Transformers 2 for example, that's also announced, but there is no article at all, it's located in the movie article. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 00:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep CoroCoro is definitely a reliable source, and this article will take off to be highly notable as soon as more information is released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twipie (talk • contribs) 02:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge. I don't dispute its existence, but at this point in its life, it needs not an article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep per this. NeonFire (talk) 12:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.