Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plot of Naruto I

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, sock or no sock. - Mailer Diablo 13:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot of Naruto I

WP is not a place for plot summaries. Pentasyllabic 14:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment Read more carefully: plot summaries are acceptable if they are part of a larger article or series of articles. This qualifies.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plunge (talk • contribs).
  • Also AfD Plot of Naruto II. --Pentasyllabic 14:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep but trim the end of Naruto II mainly because the end of that article is usually a complete in depth summary of an intire chapture including a deep analysis. Dangerdog
  • Keep atleast everything and continue updating the plot, it's important to understand what's going on and is basically the name the plot, everyone is just explaining the plot, keep the articles. if erased, it should be considered censorship.... MetalBladeX4 02:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, excessive amount of information, especially the latter. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 14:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep both articles. This is a tricky issue. Prior to September 3, WP:NOT said that plot summaries were appropriate "as part of a series of articles per Wikipedia:Article series". That phrase appears to have been deleted inadvertently during a series of edits and reversions, and I have added it back in. (See here). The upshot is that IMHO, both of the plot arc articles should be shortened as a style issue, but aren't properly a subject for deletion, as the overall plot allows readers to put the other articles in the Naruto series in context. (Although I agree that the articles are too long, that is a {{sofixit}} issue, not a reason for deletion). TheronJ 14:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per TheronJ. Payneos 15:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and Shorten per TheronJ. The information is useful in and of itself, especially those who might be curious enough to look up Naruto to find out what it is about. CaveatLectorTalk 15:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • How about this... rename to history of the Naruto world (or whatever the world is called), shorten it a bit, and reword to account for this slight shift in focus. >Radiant< 15:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep there is nothing wrong with this part, it helps to get details we miss when reading.
  • Keep per TheronJ's statements. These articles are necesary in understanding the Naruto universe, but in need of shortening. *Detailed* plot summaries are overkill, but merging the articles in a single Plot of Naruto article and cutting them down to a shorter summary would work better and fit Wiki's guidelines. NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 17:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep both articles. Both articles definitely need to be trimmed down in size, but these are no different from the episode synopses for television shows on Wiki, among other things. Djseifer 18:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep both articles, the plot summaries to many other shows, anime and not, are far greater than the Naruto articles put together. As was said above, plot summaries are allowed, and many people who can't read the manga or watch the anime can use these pages to catch up. We already limit speculative theories about characters and plots, and that should be enough. However if a merger is done and we must shorten the articles then it would be in everybody's best interest to eliminate trivia sections and the filler material, in fact the entire filler page could be done away with before any changes are made to these articles, as it does not harm the plot too much.67.85.70.232 18:48, 28 September 2006 (UTC) A fan of Naruto looking out for other fans' interests.
    • Comment If/when we do merge the article, we have to note the events of the anime filler. It is not Wikipedia's place to determine what is and is not canon. NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 19:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment, my guess was way off. I figured at least a few more people would vote delete. Oh well. I'd be fine so long as these were shortened and all inclusive. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 19:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep the plot, its still information there people would like to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.254.139.62 (talk • contribs) .
  • Delete. This seems to have touched a nerve with the Naruto fanboys. The rules say wikipedia is not for plot summaries, and this is clearly a plot summary, as indicated by the title. AmitDeshwar 00:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Split by arc. This page is much too large and already omits quite a bit of information (eg: the other fights during the Chunin Exam arc), and filler arcs are ignored altogether. This will leave a lot of small articles, but it will be a lot better than the massive, cramped page we have now. Fillers can be grouped by season (of course, keeping together arcs that have the season break between episodes). This is by no means worth deleting. You Can't See Me! 00:58, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - This is used a lot by fans in the US to see what is happening in the Japanese version. This is also one of the best articles on all of Wikipedia. To delete it would be an insanity & a mistake. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.45.111.32 (talk • contribs) .
  • Definitely keep! This is an insanely useful resource. Why regulate Wikipedia in such a manner? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.189.182.52 (talk • contribs) .
  • Keep, this is the best article that I've found on wikipedia. Why delete it??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.66.22.232 (talk • contribs) .
  • Keep, I agree don't delete it its an excellent page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.155.72.202 (talk • contribs) .
  • Comment, why am I not surprised IPs suddenly jump all over this? At least bother to follow the format when commenting. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep!, it says its spoiler info why get rid of it? dont want it dont read it:P i check here everyday for updates from the manga lol. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.177.115.29 (talk • contribs) .
  • Keep I aslo enjoy reading about the manga, because the American Version is so far behind—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.254.139.62 (talk • contribs)
  • Keep but make it shorter. master2841(User | Talk)
  • Keep Just shorten it a little. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.184.73.106 (talk • contribs) .
  • Keep or Merge as complete history—Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.83.52.48 (talk • contribs)
  • Keep or Merge that sounds like a good idea, don't shorten its really detailled and that is good—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.254.139.62 (talk • contribs)
  • Please don't delete this page goodness. I really enjoy reading it.
  • Keep both articles. I agree with TheronJ & CaveatLector. The article could be shortened, although frankly I enjoy it as it is, an invaluable resource for those attempting to gain an understanding of the core story behind the universe known as Naruto. If Wikipedia user consensus is otherwise, then I can understand deletion Jh12 15:35, 2 October 2006
  • Keep and do not merge! The history of Naruto would be much better if divided like this. See, the entries for Naruto ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu were once in one article but were divided... also, I agree with what TheronJ and CaveatLector. Kureiha x 8:23, 3 October 2006

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  • Keep and do not merge! I dont have a user account but this is the way i keep up because of my busy schedule.

This has helped me become the current leader of the show trivia and information. Recoomended to all my friends. The different Entrys, If subsidized together would seriously affect finding the infomation in a timely manner.

  • comment if wikipedia isn't supposed to have plot summaries, why doesn't it start a new sister project where plot summaries would be aloud, or thats all its about
  • I insist that this page must remain. Some naruto fans such as myself are deprived of any opportunities of downloading any new episodes of naruto, and are obliged to follow them through the summaries. Please respect that...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 147.83.52.48 (talk • contribs).
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.