Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pleo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 01:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pleo

WP is not a crystal ball Ruby 03:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom Melchoir 03:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep now that it's found references. Melchoir 09:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. (Without prejudice, so if it actually gets unveiled tomorrow and a famous manufacturer preoders >100,000 of them, come back then. :P) --Kinu 03:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not enough background. --† Ðy§ep§ion † 03:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It was just announced, and a number of articles just came out about this thing. --NeuronExMachina 04:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. One google hit. --Fuhghettaboutit 04:27, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Changing my vote to strong delete. To add to what Ruby has said below, it's pure crystal ball, not because the date of unveiling is today, but because presently it has next to no notability; what's crystal ball is its future notability, which is the standard for keep, and not whether it is a real product that's on store shelves today or tomorrow. Under that standard, specifically, Wikipedia's guidelines for brand name products, it is patently non-notable. --Fuhghettaboutit 13:20, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

At the moment, doing a google search for "pleo" and "ugobe" will get 429 hits. --NeuronExMachina 08:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, at least until tomorrow (when it's unveiled), so we know if it's actually worth an article. Rory096 04:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. "The toy is to be [unveiled] on February 7th 2006." And that's crystal ball how? Royboycrashfan 05:04, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not so much keying on when it's unveiled as when it's released (Fall 2006), because that's when we will see if it is notably popular. Ruby 05:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

• • The company is in California. It's still February 6 there. :P --Kinu 05:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I know, but it's tomorrow for them. It's still not crystal ball if it happens the next day. Royboycrashfan 05:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Think of the unveiling tomorrow as the ground-breaking ceremony for a store, and Autumn is when it opens. Ruby 05:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Well-referenced, and if we got rid of "to be released products" we'd get rid of PlayStation 3, right? RealMontrealer 06:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Exactly. One might say that the PS3 should be kept because it's from a notable company and the previous releases were notable, but this is created by the same person as the Furby, so one could say that this will, by that logic, be notable, since the Furby was. Rory096 15:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

• Keep well-referenced. Crystal ball isn't valid when said information is encyclopedic and verifiable right now. Mgm|^(talk) 12:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay I'm going to try one more time - The crystal ball aspect of this nomination refers to the notability of the product that is being advertised in this article. The product exists, assuredly, but it may flop when it is retailed this fall. Ruby 12:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Delete as advertising. Come back when the toy is internationally well-known. Zunaid 14:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete advertising, crystal ball per Ruby. MLA 15:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Advertising? I'm probably the person responsible for the majority of the article's content, and I assure you that I have no affiliation whatsoever with the company making the thing. I just think it's an interesting device, and as worthy of an article as the Playstation 3 or QRIO. Also, in response to the comment below. --NeuronExMachina 22:32, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete, item does not exist. User:Zoe|^(talk) 17:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I'll respond here, at the latest delete vote: the item may not be sold, but it is already generating press coverage. The San Jose Mercury News alone has an estimated daily readership of a million. Melchoir 21:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, has now been announced, has been covered in mainstream media. Jacoplane 20:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, Disclaimer: Bias (creator), at the risk of fisking; google hits aren't that accurate without good keywords, one hit maybe, but several references, not enough background? Add some..., and the playstation 3 point again. - Alec.N 12:04 7 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is an interesting robotic toy which people will want to read about + featured in PC-Magazine. --Heida Maria 01:15, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
• KeepI've checked this page twice in the last 3 days for information about this, if I'm interested other people are as well. Wikipedia is very useful to me as a tool to research random words/posts on the internet. I would like to be able to find what a pleo is and why it is important without having to sift through google.-pKD
• Strong Keep as Heida. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 13:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.