Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Place Portobello

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The result was Merge. Keilana^talk_(recall) 00:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Place Portobello

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Non-notable mall that lives in the shadow of a much larger mall, Mail Champlain, located less than a mile away. There are also recent news reports that the Wal-Mart and Réno-Dépôt anchor stores of this mall will both close their doors and move to Quartier Dix30, also in the immediate vicinity. Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 04:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, WP:NOTE. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, advertisement perhaps? Marlith ^T/C 05:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Marlith, it's not an advertisement; I started the article but am not affiliated with this mall. Jsmaster24 (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletions. -- A. B. ^(talk) 05:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge/summarize into Brossard, Quebec article, the city where this mall located, as per WP:NNC. I agree it may not warrant its own article but the information is verifiable and should still get more than just a simple mention in the Brossard article, being a once important mall in its history. Blanchardb, I'm interested in seeing the news reports you mentioned that say that Wal-Mart and Réno-Dépôt will close, please advise. Marlith, it's not an advertisement; I started the article but am not affiliated with this mall. Jsmaster24 (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Here is the article about the closing of Wal-Mart. Sorry, it's in French. As for Réno-Dépôt, it's something I heard on the radio. Can't find an article on that, so scratch that. Still, because that store is not connected to the mall, the loss of Wal-Mart will hurt. --Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 21:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
    • French is no problem, thanks for the interesting article. Jsmaster24 (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment with regard to mentioning the mall in Brossard, Quebec, I'm all for it. As a matter of fact, it's already mentioned in there, but that's an idea for the expansion of the article. Also, the article List of malls in Montreal is full of redlinks, at least one of which is worthy of a separate article in my mind. (Okay, I may sound a bit COI there, as I live just 10 minutes from it.) But many of those redlinks should be converted into nolinks. --Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 21:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• I say keep the article alive. Many malls in other cities have their own pages, why shouldn't this one? Until it is officially dead it deserves its own article. MTLskyline (talk) 02:02, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Actually, it's not that it's a mall, nor is it about the fact it may be on the verge of becoming dead. As I mentioned above, I believe this one is not important enough to have its own article. Its neighbor Mail Champlain does deserve its own article. I'm not against individual malls having articles of their own, in fact I started an article on Place Rosemère earlier today. I was surprised that there was none yet. --Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 02:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
    • fair enough, perhaps condensing it and adding it to the Brossard, Quebec article under as Jsmaster24 suggested is the best option. Under a shopping center heading perhaps? MTLskyline (talk) 18:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. —Jsmaster24 (talk) 23:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Since I'm a contributor to the article, I would go with Keep although I wouldn't mind if it got deleted because I must admit the mall doesn't have anything special other than the fact that it once housed the first ever Woolco store to open in the province and perhaps because it is the oldest (still standing) shopping mall in Brossard. You probably will never find me create an article about Place Portobello but I guess it somewhat deserve its article because of two reasons I've mentionned. Farine—Preceding comment was added at 01:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
• Notability is defined by the existence of independent third-party sources about the topic, not by the simple fact of the topic's existence. Merge to a list of shopping malls in Brossard. Bearcat (talk) 04:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

• Content from this article moved here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_centers_in_greater_Montreal —Preceding unsigned comment added by MTLskyline (talk • contribs) 00:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Evil Spartan (talk) 20:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as another small mall. I would not oppose a merge, but there is nothing of note to merge in. If this article is deleted, the template should be updated so that we don't encourage another trip here for an AfD again. WP:ILIKEIT and other stuff exists reasoning is not a reason to keep. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.