Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pizza farm

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Nishkid64 04:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pizza farm

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The premise of this article is simply ridiculous. There is no such thing as a "pizza farm;" this concept has no notability. Proabivouac 09:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep. It's ridiculous, but it's also real. The article is backed up with verifiable references. --Eastmain 09:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
    • So you allow that it's ridiculous, but still want to keep. What's AfD for if not to rid wikipedia of articles which are ridiculous? Yes, it's ridiculous, but keep is tantamount to saying, "Wikipedia should be ridiculous."
The references are pretty tenuous, actually, and don't preclude a hoax. Even if not, we are talking about how many "pizza farms" here? If only a handful, it approaches advertisement. This is simply not an agreed-upon thing which exists.
I found this alongside Persian garden, Zen garden, etc. on Garden, listed as Pizza garden, an excellent illustration of the corrosive effect this kind of material has on the encylopedia. Are we a serious encylopedia, or an adolescent joke? If the latter, I will grant you that this article has real potential. I am laughing, after all...but if this is an enyclopedia, I really shouldn't be.Proabivouac 09:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - The concept has been mentioned on HGTV and the presence of other sources further speak to notability, though perhaps their content can't be considered suitable for gauging it. Even if it turns out to be a hoax, it's a notable hoax. (It's no spaghetti trees, but what is?) The only thing that will change if such is the case is that the article will have a section about how a hoax was cooked up in an attempt to popularize it, rather than the existing mention of its rising popularity. -- Y|yukichigai (ramble argue check) 10:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete non-notable neologism. Akihabara 12:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Oh please! I will grant the fact that it is a way to organise one's garden (provided you have a round garden), but there's no need to leave this here, as one can plant their carrots and onions in wavy squirrel-shaped areas or their petunias and roses to look like Alec Baldwin, name it, wait a few years and call it a style. If this ever becomes traditional/notable/popular, then yes, but otherwise... the Persian garden, English garden or French formal garden styles are traditional and historical, this is cruft. --Ouro 13:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - I'm trying to assume good faith here, but the first sentence of this appears to be an attack on... something. Whatever it is I'm being drowned in cynicism. I'm not sure the editor is evaluating this article on its merits so much as the perceived worth of the subject matter itself. -- Y|yukichigai (ramble argue check) 13:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Comment This was not meant as an attack, and sorry if you felt that way, Yukichigai, I was just thinking out loud and contemplating the worth of the presence of this article. What bothers me also is the choice of external links, as they point to specific pizza farm'y places and border on advertisement. But, again, this is just how I feel about this. --Ouro 13:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Comment As if "the perceived worth of the subject matter" were irrelevant to the mission of an encyclopedia.Proabivouac 20:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Comment - "The perceived worth of the subject matter" is a nice way of saying "the editor's personal opinion on subject X," i.e. what they think of the concept of a pizza farm outside of its presence on Wikipedia. In that instance no, it doesn't. Remember, Wikipedia is not about truth, but verifiability. -- Y|yukichigai (ramble argue check) 22:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Another alternative gardening style, we have plenty of unusual articles on gardening. --frothT 13:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Passes WP:V with multiple non-trivial references. It may be silly, but the Biggest ball of twine is silly, and that's not a reason to delete either article. Tevildo 16:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Reluctant keep. This is setting all kinds of cruft bells ringing in my head...but the USA Today reference is genuine and suggests that this has at least marginal notability. Squeezeweasel 17:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. The premise of this AfD "There is no such thing as a "pizza farm;" this concept has no notability" is clearly not true - the external links show that the term pizza farm is indeed used, and that the concept is recognised. To what extent the concept is notable could be subject for debate but the fact that the article is reasonably well written, and gives references on notable websites makes me see little reason to delete. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 18:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, it could use some more references but otherwise it seems to qualify for being an article. Wrs1864 18:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep meets WP:N, despite the linkspam, silliness doesn't mitigate notability. Spaghetti trees are silly, but notable. This is an novel version of Agritourism that obviously is interesting enough to get some national media attention. Tubezone 20:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep It is a recognised concept: per the link additions mentioned, these prove it's indeed used, and are referenced. Notable enough for an article. --SunStar Nettalk 20:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. ALthough I dislike the spam links, the subject appears to have more than one reference from reliable sources, so possibly passes WP:N. If it helps to stop kids from replying "from a tin" or "the supermarket" when asked where tomatoes or eggs come from, it's probably beneficial. Ohconfucius 07:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. So the fact that there are few of them and that it's "silly" (in your opinion) is cause to remove it? Balderdash and poppycock. My daughter has visited out local Pizza Farm and she quite enjoyed the educational benefits of the field trip. It's a unique way of the doing business of selling pizza and that alone should merit its inclusion in this encyclopedia.BlueJimmie 13:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.