Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pier Augusto Gemignani
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Veinor (talk to me) 22:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pier Augusto Gemignani
I dont see any indication that this guy is much more notable than your average doctor. His real claim to fame seems to be that he was Sanitary Director (?) of an Italian hospital (that doesn't have an article). I get the feeling this may have been written by a relative. The only source seems to be a webpage in Italian. He's written some books, it appears, but google isn't giving me much on him or his books, especially when "wikipedia" is subtracted from the search. I don;t think he clears the bar. R. fiend (talk) 17:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. The one source given only mentions him once, in passing, and doesn't assert notability. Furthermore, it seems as though his books have, between them, been cited maybe twice. Not notable. Anturiaethwr (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. —Espresso Addict (talk) 05:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. According to the article, he was head of department of the second largest hospital in Genoa (the fact that we have no article on it is grounds for writing one, not dismissing it), editor-in-chief of the journal Pathologica, then published by the very prestigious publisher, Springer-Verlag, published four history of medicine books and lectured at the University of Genoa, a major Italian university, which makes him substantially "more notable than your average doctor". As he died in 1997 and published in Italian, it is unlikely that Google Scholar is giving accurate citation counts for his books. The current article does seem to have been written by a friend or relative, and could do with substantial pruning. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know. It still seems to me like there's little here. Are we to have articles on every person who's ever been head of any department at the second largest hospital in every major city in the world? I really think his position there is pretty irrelevant. Editor of a journal is something, I guess, but how notable is the journal (it doesn't have an article either, for what it's worth)? Lecturing at a university in itself doesn't put him about the average professor. I think the only case he has is as a published author, and I'd like to see evidence of the notability of his books. I also am curious about how much reliable information is available once we remove the personal stuff. -R. fiend (talk) 13:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Pathologica is definitely notable and should have an article (indeed I might just start one while I have the details to hand). Springer is one of the top European science publishers, and it's one of the relatively few non-English language journals indexed by Medline. If independent evidence can be found that he was the editor-in-chief, that alone would seem to meet WP:PROF. This should be available, in the journal masthead if nowhere else, but might well not be online. I agree his other positions are relatively marginal with regard to WP:PROF, but go towards a picture of a prominent Italian physician. This seems to me to be the kind of article that needs expert attention from an Italian speaker with access to appropriate resources, not deletion. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know. It still seems to me like there's little here. Are we to have articles on every person who's ever been head of any department at the second largest hospital in every major city in the world? I really think his position there is pretty irrelevant. Editor of a journal is something, I guess, but how notable is the journal (it doesn't have an article either, for what it's worth)? Lecturing at a university in itself doesn't put him about the average professor. I think the only case he has is as a published author, and I'd like to see evidence of the notability of his books. I also am curious about how much reliable information is available once we remove the personal stuff. -R. fiend (talk) 13:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 20:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete little of substance here. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
