Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pia Haraldsen
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 17:37, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pia Haraldsen
Not notable. Google does not return much about her (in English) [1] and the article makes no claims to notability. grubber 16:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - I would say her family connection to Queen Sonja of Norway counts as an assertion of notability, but there is only one external source. More evidence of multiple coverage by independent sources is needed to establish notability per WP:BIO. Delete unless article is improved. Walton monarchist89 17:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep, although she has not really done anything of notice, she is for some reason a celebrity in Norway. 96T 17:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly. She does appear to have some celebrity status in Norway (as there are lots of hits in Norwegian), and she does have some family ties... but she really hasn't done anything notable. That's my motivation for this AfD. I would vote "weak delete" personally, but I certainly understand your "weak keep." I'm hoping we can get someone in-the-know here to help make a good case in one direction or the other. - grubber 17:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- I am a Norwegian myself and I am quite sure most Norwegians know who she is. The fact that she will appear on the "Rikets røst" show (as mentioned in the article) makes her more noteable, as that is a popular show here. The fact that she hasn't done anything to deserve fame (not as far as I know) doesn't make her less famous.96T 18:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well it's good to get your perspective, because many of the links in the article are red. For example, the show you mention is red-linked. I am completely ignorant of Norwegian pop-culture, so I would (naively) assume that the show isnt notable enough for an article, so neither is her appearance. It's hard to judge whether WP just doesn't have an article yet or whether the redlink is due to un-notability in general. It's clear she's notable in Norway. My question to you: Would she be considered notable to the English-speaking world? Is she worthy of an entry in the English WP? Thanks for you comments! - grubber 18:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- "Rikets røst" is a notable show that IMO should have an article, yes. If being a national celebrity, appearing on a notable TV show and being connected to the royal family in a country with 4.5 million people qualifies for notability, then Pia Haraldsen stays in the English Wikipedia. If that is not enough, she doesn't. [to say my personal opinion, I think the article should be kept, although I dislike that trivial Norwegian celebrities such as her have articles in Wikipedia while truly great Norwegians such as writer Sigurd Hoel haven't.] 96T 22:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Alright. Thanks for the guidance! - grubber 01:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- "Rikets røst" is a notable show that IMO should have an article, yes. If being a national celebrity, appearing on a notable TV show and being connected to the royal family in a country with 4.5 million people qualifies for notability, then Pia Haraldsen stays in the English Wikipedia. If that is not enough, she doesn't. [to say my personal opinion, I think the article should be kept, although I dislike that trivial Norwegian celebrities such as her have articles in Wikipedia while truly great Norwegians such as writer Sigurd Hoel haven't.] 96T 22:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well it's good to get your perspective, because many of the links in the article are red. For example, the show you mention is red-linked. I am completely ignorant of Norwegian pop-culture, so I would (naively) assume that the show isnt notable enough for an article, so neither is her appearance. It's hard to judge whether WP just doesn't have an article yet or whether the redlink is due to un-notability in general. It's clear she's notable in Norway. My question to you: Would she be considered notable to the English-speaking world? Is she worthy of an entry in the English WP? Thanks for you comments! - grubber 18:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- I am a Norwegian myself and I am quite sure most Norwegians know who she is. The fact that she will appear on the "Rikets røst" show (as mentioned in the article) makes her more noteable, as that is a popular show here. The fact that she hasn't done anything to deserve fame (not as far as I know) doesn't make her less famous.96T 18:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly. She does appear to have some celebrity status in Norway (as there are lots of hits in Norwegian), and she does have some family ties... but she really hasn't done anything notable. That's my motivation for this AfD. I would vote "weak delete" personally, but I certainly understand your "weak keep." I'm hoping we can get someone in-the-know here to help make a good case in one direction or the other. - grubber 17:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- deletethe material about the connection to the royal family is absurd: "step-daughter of the niece of Queen Sonja of Norway, " She's not actually a relative. This is straining after N. We would best remedy the lack of an article on Hoel by writing one, not be keeping this. DGG 03:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per above. --MaNeMeBasat 13:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep is also the former editor of the Norwegian version of Cosmopolitan, how she became a celeb is beyond me, but she's in the press all the time. 22700 ghits with 430 unique hits for "Pia Haraldsen" [2]. --E ivind t@c 19:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
