Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Physical Culture

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The result of the debate was REDIRECT to Physical culture. The debate is slightly unclear, but it appears the capitalization issue was only discovered toward the end. Given Capitalistroadster's addition to the lower-cased version, and the weakness of the content as it stands, I'll redirect it. -Splash 00:19, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Physical Culture

The Bjelke-Petersen School of Physical Culture has 180 clubs in Eastern Australia. Does this make it notable or is it just advertising? Note. The text is a direct copyvio from the school's website but since it was probably they who posted it, I think we should deal with the notability first. -- RHaworth 06:42:48, 2005-08-29 (UTC)

• Comment. I would vote keep for it but note that it needs a significant cleanup. This is a non-profit organisation with a reasonable following and 180 clubs in Eastern Australia is a significant number of clubs. Hans Christian Bjelke-Peterson (not Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen) was the founder of the organisation [1] and he has an interesting background in anthropometric studies see the link. However, I am of the view that copyvios should be deleted even if the organisation has no problems with them staying. This is because material coped from the web is usually not POV nor does it usually present the information in an encylopedic way. This should be deleted as a copyvio. If someone wants to write an encyclopedic article on this that isn't a copyvio, I would welcome it. Capitalistroadster 07:30, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly notable. It needs cleanup not deletion, so I have marked it as such. Osomec 13:43, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this is a notable subject, related to the physcial fitness fads of the 1920-1960 period when "physical culture" was thought to be important. I.e Betar etc. Also the role of "physical culture" magazines as sources of gay erotica. Notable social phenominon. Klonimus 22:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand. It took me a while of sitting and thinking before I recalled that almost every young female I went to school with went to this thing called 'fizzy'. It's a significant part of the youth of most Australian female's in Sydney especially. Jachin 22:12, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep for reason given by Klonimus and others as well. Physical Culture was also, IIRC, the name of a quite well-known magazine, possibly edited by Bernarr Macfadden??? Good grief, do we really not have an article about Bernarr Macfadden? Apparently not... here's a website about him, ah, "Father of Physical Culture," another entry for the List of people known as the father or mother of something. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:27, 29 August 2005 (UTC) All observations apply, but change vote to redirect, see below. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Comment Damn case-sensitivity... we have an little stub on Physical culture. Just a stub, though. But look! it mentions Bernarr Macfadden.
• Redirect to Physical culture. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect sounds good to me. Capitalistroadster 23:39, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Note. I have added a paragraph about the Australian version of physical culture to the "Physical culture" article. Capitalistroadster 09:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

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