Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip Mayne

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 02:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philip Mayne

• Philip Mayne (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Congratulations to Mr Mayne on his long life, but beyond that he is only thought to be notable. Moreover, is merely out surviving your peers notable in the first place? Nuttah68 14:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

• Strong keep, as for all the other articles about the remaining WWI veterans. Extremely sexy 15:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Last of a dying generation. Acctorp 03:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Being 107 years old is notable in its own right, I think. Tevildo 16:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep. One of the last living British veterans of First World War, oldest living alumnus of Cambridge University Engineering Department and oldest living alumnus of King's College, Cambridge. Notable enough. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Budgiekiller (talk • contribs) 17:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC).
  • Comment: where in the article is the claim "oldest living British veteran of First World War", let alone backed up with verifiable sources? Nuttah68 18:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Does the BBC count as a reliable source? And, you're right, he's not the oldest WWI veteran, that's Henry Allingham: Mr Mayne is the oldest surviving officer.Tevildo 18:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
      • The BBC source only confirms he exists, which isn't being questioned. It makes no claims for him, neither does the article which says he is thought to be the oldest. As I originally asked, is out surviving your peers notable, because the source provided in the article makes it clear he never fought in WWI and has no other notability apart from his age. Nuttah68 18:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, but include the BBC reference in the article Alf photoman 18:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep.--HisSpaceResearch 19:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:AfD is not a vote - comments without reasoning will be disregarded. Trebor 23:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep. He has received borderline trivial/non-trivial comments in multiple reliable published sources, so it skirts the edges of notability. I expect when he dies a lot more information will become available, but until then I think it can just about be kept. Trebor 23:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete. I find him interesting, but do not feel he meets Wikipedia's notability standards. A specific age does not cut it. Setting a record does not either. Wikipedia is not Guinness. Even if it were, we have no verifiable confirmation that he has set any records. Doczilla 07:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

This article right here lists him as one of the remaing half dozen or so. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wiltshire/6192997.stm http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=55&ArticleID=1321914 there is more. I guess he didn't fight, but still. Vital Component 11:03 EST 1/8/07

So what exactly is your particular vote? Extremely sexy 23:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Given that there's barely a handful still alive, I suggest that verifiable surviving WWI soldiers are inherently notable.Eludium-q36 18:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Please, the sources available say that this person is notable and he meets the bio guideline. Yuckfoo 02:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep. The last known surviving officer from one of the major combatant countries in a war that set the stage for the 20th century...I'd say that is certainly notable.Frankwomble 15:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Indeed so, but I still miss Robert Young's vote on the matter: very strange. Extremely sexy 16:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

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