Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Milczyn
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 17:03, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Peter Milczyn
Are city council members from Canada inherently noteworthy? What is the consensus? Google returns 188 unique matches for this particular figure. [1] --GRider\talk 21:59, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - Michael Thompson and Doug Holyday were kept and there is no reason why this Toronto councillor should not also be kept. - SimonP 22:24, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you SimonP for your response. Google is returning an exceptionally low number of hits for this individual. Based on your suggestion, is it safe to assume then that all Toronto City Council members are inherently noteworthy regardless of the respective hit count? Is this a matter of consensus? --GRider\talk 22:46, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- No, my contention is that notability is a meaningless concept. I am asserting that the neutrality and accuracy of an article on a Toronto city councillor is verifiable because they have all received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. - SimonP 23:00, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Acknowledged. Thank you for your honest and expeditious reply. --GRider\talk 01:26, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- No, my contention is that notability is a meaningless concept. I am asserting that the neutrality and accuracy of an article on a Toronto city councillor is verifiable because they have all received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. - SimonP 23:00, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you SimonP for your response. Google is returning an exceptionally low number of hits for this individual. Based on your suggestion, is it safe to assume then that all Toronto City Council members are inherently noteworthy regardless of the respective hit count? Is this a matter of consensus? --GRider\talk 22:46, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. —Mar·ka·ci:2005-03-7 23:11 Z
- Keep --Spinboy 02:35, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Being a student in Mr. Milczyn's ward, I am inherently biased, but I agree with SimonP on the neutrality and accuracy point. By the way, GRider, I must commend you on your politeness, many Wikipedians could learn from your civility and courtesy. -- user:zanimum
- Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. Toronto city councillors are notable enough, and Milczyn is even more so because he is known as one of the former Liberal Party member who threw his support behind John Tory's Tories (say it three times real fast) for the Ontario government. (sorry, forgot to sign) Deathphoenix 12:50, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Toronto councillors. Meelar (talk) 07:30, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Per consensus at Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Local politicians, merge local politicians unless they have done something exceptional beyond being elected. Radiant! 09:42, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Um, I must disagree--I would certainly contend that this individual has "a non-stub article written about him", and thus deserves to be kept under the criteria established there. Meelar (talk) 18:48, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Granted, it is a long enough article, however I cannot infer from the article that he has done something notable other than being elected. Borderline case, imho. Radiant! 11:50, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Um, I must disagree--I would certainly contend that this individual has "a non-stub article written about him", and thus deserves to be kept under the criteria established there. Meelar (talk) 18:48, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This is not a stub. Kevintoronto 14:45, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to some Toronto councillors article. This article is 90% filler and basically says nothing of interest. -R. fiend 19:40, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Not to you, perhaps. If I were interested in the municipal politics of Toronto--and millions have reason to be--I would be interested to learn this stuff. For example, "he is considered one of the right wing members of city council"--that's interesting and important information to many people. Meelar (talk) 01:02, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I am clearly outnumbered but I must vote delete. We would not keep the bio of a random businessman of equivalent seniority and supervisory/budget responsibility. If it must be kept, I strongly prefer a merge. Rossami (talk) 23:32, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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