Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pete Tyler

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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 01:05, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pete Tyler

Pure fancruft. A character who only appears in one episode of a long-running TV series. Miss Pippa 17:03, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. My normal preference is to merge minor or one-time characters, but this article is big enough that merging would be difficult. It even has a picture! Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:11, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
  • The fact that it's too big to move proves that the article is fancruft according to the official definition: "too much detail is present that will bore, distract or confuse a non-fan, when its exclusion would not significantly harm the factual coverage as a whole." Miss Pippa 18:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Valid, useful and interesting to fans. It seems to me that this is article is a perfectly appropriate size, given the subject. Someone cared enough to post this, others collaborated to make it into the well written article we're reviewing in under three days; its self-evident that there's an interest for it! VfD should be used only as a last resort. Useful, coherent, well written and organized data belongs here. --Unfocused 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • As you say: " Valid, useful and interesting to fans." To fans. From the official definition of fancruft: "it is of minimal interest to non-fans." Miss Pippa 18:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Not a valid reason for deletion. The page you point to is not official policy, but opinion. From the same: "Whether it is beneficial or detrimental to an encyclopedia to describe a work of fiction in complete detail when there are no such critical views to report on is still very much an open question." --Unfocused 18:47, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is nothing more than cruft. C W Merchant 18:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The fancruft definition could apply to any number of Shakespeare articles out there, too. Wikipedia is not paper 23skidoo 18:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I love Dr Who, but comparing it to Shakespeare is really quite rich. Quale 22:02, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Over the top but harmless. Oliver Chettle 19:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to Doctor Who or List of one-time characters in Doctor Who, per WP:FICT. Appearing in a single episode of a TV series would not be very encyclopedic had his role not disrupted SPACE AND TIME AS WE KNOW IT!, causing temporal-disruption cleaner-uppers to come devour anachronistic things, etc. Fortunately, these effects were only in fiction. Barno 19:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Comment I'm the one who expanded it. If it were up to me, I would not have created the article in the first place, but someone else did, so rather than go through the agony of proposing a vfd I decided the next best thing was to expand it to at least a semi-decent standard, and that's just what I did. I'll leave it up to others to decide if it should stay or not, but I do agree that he's a minor character. --khaosworks 19:44, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Unfocused. Kappa 20:26, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Fancruft. Quale 21:31, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Everything below the Spoiler Warning is a retelling of the episode itself, making all of the information redundant. The opening paragraph may be re-used or merged with a list of minor supporting characters, but the overall article should be deleted. Ravenswood 22:15, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. No harm in keeping; adds to information about a popular, long-running TV show. Moncrief 22:19, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Fancruft. Maybe merge the opening with another article. --Carnildo 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, valid well written article. Megan1967 04:25, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, but delete spoiler element, as will/should be in ep.listing entry. The back-stories of the Doctor's companions are often used as plot-hooks in future episodes & therefore, within the milieu, are going to have significance. --Simon Cursitor 07:02, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete or merge, whocraft. Martg76 08:21, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge WP:FICT. Radiant_* 14:30, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, valid article
• Keep he is the major charcater of that story, just edging him over the dividing line into article-worthiness --TimPope 06:43, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

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