Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Personal life of Hugo Chávez

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete as redundant with the information already available at the parent article. After deleting, I will redirect for user-friendliness. Xoloz 19:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal life of Hugo Chávez

The personal life of Hugo Chávez is not a subject worthy of an article in and of itself. Without context, discussion of someone's personal life is essentially meaningless as a standalone subject, and it doesn't make encyclopaedic sense to separate this information from the main article. It looks to me as if all the content here is in the main article anyway - I suggest merging any that is not, and deleting. Worldtraveller 13:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. (What's next, Sartorial habits of Albert Einstein?) Bucketsofg✐ 14:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The creator dumped this information into its own seperate article to keep the section in Hugo Chavez from running too long. Frankly I don't see why we need any more information than what is already in the main article. Aplomado ^talk 17:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

after edit conflict with Aplomado:

• Keep - Finding a "Personal life" section in the middle of a biography article is not unusual. When that section becomes too large, editors split the article and create a sub-article like this one. That's exactly what happened. That happens all the time in big articles, what's the problem?! What policies is this article violating? Actually, it just complies with WP:SIZE. The main article (which is a FA) is already 86Kb, let's merge and call the Guinness Book of Records. Afonso Silva 17:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree that such a practice is not uncommon in large articles like these, but that's not what I have a problem with. It just seems to me that any relevant information on Huga Chavez's personal life is already in the blurb in the main article. There's such a thing as being too detailed. Aplomado ^talk 17:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
    • In fact, this is the only 'Personal life of...' article on Wikipedia - see [1]. The problem with this is that 'personal life of xxx' is not a notable thing in and of itself, but only within the context of xxx, so splitting into a separate article should never be done. Worldtraveller 17:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
      • If it isn't notable in a separate article, it isn't notable on the main article. Afonso Silva 18:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
        • There are facts in the separate article that aren't notable. All the facts that are notable are already in the main article. Aplomado ^talk 18:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, usually I would vote keep on the basis of that the article "broke away" naturally because of the size of the Hugo Chavez article (that thing is huge) but if you look at the personal life section of the Chavez article, Hugo Chavez#Personal life, it pretty much contains much of the same information and thus I don't think that the article should exist.--Jersey Devil 18:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all relevant info is in Hugo Chavez. --Eivind^t@c 20:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete There really is absolutely no reason to have articles like this. If someone is notable for their personal life, the main article will focus on that. If they're notable for things other than that (ie. politics) then there's no reason for a personal life section to be so large. Danny Lilithborne 23:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above KleenupKrew 10:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Redundant information. Equendil 20:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep As Afonso said to keep the original from getting to large. And also to keep the information availible
• Delete Yes, the original Chavez article is outrageously too long and difficult to edit, and these daughter articles were created, apparently, to shorten the Chavez article for featured status, and to remove some controversial topics from the main article. But the information included in the Personal Life article isn't needed and doesn't warrant a separate article. Anything important enough about his personal life to be mentioned in an encyclopedia can be mentioned in the main article. There are numerous other ways the main article could, and should be, shortened without creating fluff. Sandy 02:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.