Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pencil Box

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep rewritten article. - Mailer Diablo 13:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pencil Box

dicdef Flapdragon 01:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

• obvious definition; not in wiktionary; don't suggest move. Delete ERcheck 01:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Comment when admin deletes this, please delete other nonsense articles by contributor.—Gaff ^ταλκ 02:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Looks like a valid speedy to me. Tagging as speedy for admin attention. Chris talk back 02:44, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

  Keep as rewritten Chris talk back 16:17, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Comment: Speedy delete tag has been removed, with the explanation that it is already on AfD (not by me). -- Kjkolb 08:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Move to Wiktionary. WordNet has it [1] - it's a commonly used term, at least in Indian English. utcursch | talk 04:39, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unless rewritten to be about the 1976 CBC series. An actual article about pencil boxes would belong at Pencil box. I vaguely recall that these are (were?) very popular in Japan, though there's no article at ja:筆箱 to translate, so I may be mistaken. —Cryptic (talk) 09:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Good TV-stub. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 11:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as per above. --Daveb 12:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep people should read the article first as it stands now before voting :) ; this isn't about pencil boxes, the stationary item, but a children's TV show. I don't see why this should be considered a definition. Definitely a stub but it should be kept and expanded. Sorry, made my comment before I realized that the entry has been substantially changed today. We're now essentially voting on a different article; future voters (and admins), please take note of this. Janet13 14:23, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• OK, on this brand-new article, completely unrelated to the one I suggested for deletion, I vote keep. But it should surely be re-titled Pencil Box (TV show) or some such. Flapdragon 14:50, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  • No need for extra qualifiers. We already have capitalization to deal with that. Both pencil box and Pencil Box are interlinked so people who can't use properly capitalization can still find what they're looking for. Titles should be as easy as possible. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:00, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree titles should be as easy as possible, but think you're being a bit subtle here. In an encyclopaedia where "Innosense" is accepted as a misspelling so frequent that needs to be a redirect to Innocence, as it was the other day, it's a bit unrealistic to expect people to be so scrupulous about their capitalisation. Most of the time such searches are not case-sensitive, and Wikipedia's fussiness in that department still catches me out sometimes. After all why should the first initial letter of a term like Pencil box be capitalised, and if so why not the second too? Flapdragon 23:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep rewrite. TheMadBaron 17:00, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as re-written (children's show) ERcheck 22:36, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Comment Something has gone adrift here. We now seem to be discussing whether to delete an article (about a TV programme) that was never suggested for deletion, while the one that was suggested for deletion (about the thing you keep pencils in) has in effect been quietly speedy-kept as a redirect to Pencil case, itself just as much a classic dicdef as Pencil box was before it was rewritten on a different subject. Incidentally "pencil box" is not the same as "pencil case", since the latter is often (usually?) made of a soft material, which the former cannot be. Let's call the whole thing off! Flapdragon 23:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  • There has been no speedy keeping. Neither pencil case nor pencil box were nominated for deletion here in the first place (although the former was nominated and kept back in May). All that has happened is that Pencil Box has been rewritten to actually be about what the incoming hyperlinks implied that it was intended to be about, thanks to Cryptic pointing it out above. Uncle G 23:10, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep the rewritten article on the Canadian children's TV show with a disambiguation link directing people looking for information on pencil boxes to pencil case. Capitalistroadster 23:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep article as it now stands; propose discontinuing this discussion due to the changes. Bearcat 06:32, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.