Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pedare Christian College

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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 14:56, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pedare Christian College

Non-notable high school in Adelaide, Australia. I know the school, trust me, its not notable. - Aaron Hill 08:36, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, ergo it is encyclopaedic. Klonimus 09:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

• That makes absolutely no sense. Gamaliel 09:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

• Short form of every public/educational institution is worth of inclusion.Klonimus 09:20, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

• Why not just say that then? You could say that in eight words too, and it has the added advantage of being comprehensible. Gamaliel 09:43, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

What, precisely, is incomprehensible about the word "encyclopedic" ? Encyclopedic = all encompassing. Encyclopedias were first conceived and intended as universal repositories of all knowledge. Note, universal and all. Wikipedia is the first attempt at creating an encyclopedia that even has the remotest chance of being truly, actually, really encyclopedic. Wikipedia is not an attempt at creating an anaemic electronic version of Britannica.--Gene_poole 01:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Useless collection of generic facts about an insignificant school. This is not an encyclopedia article. Individual schools are not inherently encyclopedic and there is nothing to distinguish insignificant schools like this one from thousands of nearly identical schools around the world. Gamaliel 09:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, good short article. Kappa 09:15, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, does not establish notability. Megan1967 10:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep -- Longhair | Talk 10:53, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good article. Capitalistroadster 11:03, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with local geographic article (Golden Grove, South Australia), nothing in the school article currently suggests that this school has any particular note nationally, so any interest is purely local. Average Earthman 11:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good article - not merely a stub --AYArktos 11:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good article. Ambi 12:35, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - Seems like quite a good article - SimonP 14:50, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Worth the information.--Prem 15:00, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Yet another non-notable high school. Quale 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• I agree with those voters who say it's a well-written article. That doesn't mean it's notable. Yet another 2dary (high) school: delete or merge per Average Earthman 11:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC). —msh210 18:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Don't agree that high schools are inherently non-notable. R Calvete 19:39, 2005 May 3 (UTC)
  • Ah, but the real question is: Do you think all high schools are inherently notable? If your answer is yes, you should simply say so. You will vote "keep" for any high school. If your answer is no, then you should explain what makes this school notable enough to be encyclopedic. Quale 20:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • In that case, then i'll be voting "keep" whenever i come across a high school on VFD. R Calvete 22:19, 2005 May 3 (UTC)
• Delete. Klonimus voted "keep" --Carnildo 21:47, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • WP:NPA Klonimus 05:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • That wasn't a personal attack. That was an explanation of why I voted to delete. --Carnildo 22:06, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
• keep the school deletionists are heading for another defeat and i think it is time for them to cease their time wasting activities. Oliver Chettle 02:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Golden Grove, South Australia and delete - Skysmith 09:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Lovely article. It's about a school in Golden Grove, South Australia. Jolly good stuff! --Tony Sidaway|Talk 22:15, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. It would make the Golden Grove, South Australia article unbalanced to merge there. Author should be encouraged to write more articles. --ScottDavis 00:10, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• keep please the article is good Yuckfoo 00:32, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Non-"notability" not established. Censure nominator for disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point. --Gene_poole 01:30, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Schools are enduring social and physical institutions and are inherently encyclopedic. Tobycat 03:51, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable. Noisy | Talk 10:27, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, good short article. Alphax ^τεχ 11:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable school. Grue 19:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. James F. (talk) 20:09, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Great article sheds light on its noteworthy history. Samaritan 23:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
• Comment The article doesn't establish notability -- says quite a lot about the school, but no particular reason why we should care. Haikupoet 00:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

What would "establish notability"? One of three schools sharing facilities on a single campus? A school run jointly by two different denominations of the Christian church? Or does it have to be at least <x> years old or have at least <n> alumni listed in Wikipedia to count as notable? --ScottDavis 03:23, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

It's one of those I-know-it-when-I-see-it things, but I'll try to explain anyway. I think notability is a function of the school having played a significant role in something historic, even if somewhat minor. Check the VfD on Framingham High School -- Pres. Clinton kicked off a significant initiative there, therefore it just barely meets the bar for notability. Eton, on the other hand, is notable primarily for being the iconic British public school with numerous significant graduates and an influence on modern UK society. On the other hand, my own home town high school is primarily notable for having been briefly host to Crown Princess Masako of Japan, which I suspect does not meet the bar of notability (unless you're a bored Japanese tourist in Boston). It's definitely a hard thing to quantify. Now I'm not saying this place isn't notable in some context -- I don't know much about Australian culture, so for all I know it could be Australia's Stuyvesant High School, but this article doesn't demonstrate that. Haikupoet 04:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - notable for its origin and shared facilities between public and private educational institutions as explained in the article. --Takver 01:45, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, not notable. JamesBurns 03:31, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, and refine policy to prevent future VfD nominations of school articles. In my opinion, schools with more than a few students should automatically be considered "encyclopedic"/wikipedia-worthy. Wikipedia will not be improved by the deletion of this article. ~leif ☺ _(talk) 20:49, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. JYolkowski // talk 22:34, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Intrigue 18:23, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

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