Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patchin's School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Fram (talk) 15:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Patchin's School

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Contested prod. Non-notable junior high school, relatively few google hits, school does not appear to exist any more. Roleplayer (talk) 01:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Strong delete Strong delete and salt - School is not notable at all. Concerns raised by author in edit summaries (while being continually reverted by VoaBot) that the page is "needed to preserve information for alumni" is not a reason to keep the article. It's a call for the alumni to get their own web hosting, as Wikipedia is not a free web host. (Vote changed per info provided by Pairadox) Gromlakh (talk) 02:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong delete; non-notable school, and other reasons given in comment above. +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 03:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep this page; As an alumnus from this school I feel strongly for keeping this page. Though it may not be a famous or well known school I feel that it's important to preserve information about this school for alumni and their children generations to come.

Wikipedia is a site for information gathering. There are many schools that are also not well known on this site. There are also a lot of famous schools that do not have accurate information. This site is for information gathering, and Patchin's, though small, has its own story to tell. If this page is deleted then this site will not be truly for sharing and spreading information but a site that oppresses and erases that history of those articles that are not "important" enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patchinsalumni (talk • contribs) 04:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

  • comment: This isn't about other schools. They are getting cleaned up. The big problem here is a lack of independent published sources to verify what this school was. A Wikipedia article about a school needs more than just alumni tradition. I'd support a keep on principle if sources could be found. • Gene93k (talk) 10:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete and salt - As this off-site page indicates, there is no intention to abide by the results of this AfD. Pairadox (talk) 05:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. The school apparently was a K-12 and since notability does not expire, the fact it closed should not be relevant here. Meatpuppet issues should be dealt with if and when they come up. • Gene93k (talk) 10:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Where do you see K-12? I see Junior High, which is something much different. As far as I'm aware, there is no assumption of notability for elementary and junior high schools. Pairadox (talk) 13:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Non-RS quality source (Tripatlas for Martinez, CA) suggests it was. Whatever this school was, it appears to be real enough for a merge/mention into Martinez, California#Schools, but there seems to be an edit war over that. • Gene93k (talk) 14:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
A circular source, since the small print at the bottom of that link indicates the info came from Wikipedia. Pairadox (talk) 14:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment: There are a few sources out there that at least mention the school (such as this one), so I suspect it's at least real. It's more that the author is trying to invent notability that clearly isn't there, and so he's making stuff up to essentially pad the school's resume. It definitely needs to be salted, though, based on the call to ignore consensus and keep putting the article back up. Gromlakh (talk) 19:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Of the school's allegedly notable alumni, Fred Fagg would have had to have enrolled at the age of 80 (born 1896, school founded 1976) -- and he might not have had time to graduate given that he died in 1981. Another one, Jason Simpson, is completely misidentified; he is listed as "OC Simpson's son". While O.J. Simpson (not "OC") does have a son named Jason, he is not the person that the Jason Simpson article is about. And the other two notable alumni are not even identified by name. Also, neither of the two movies supposedly filmed on campus can be identified; the IMDb lists only one movie named Dinky, released 41 years before the school was founded, and none named Brown's Military Academy. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Nothing to set this apart from any other school + lacks any coverage Corpx (talk) 08:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —Camaron | Chris (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • delete for now, although i support the inclusion of all schools, that is not policy, only high schools are automatically of note and to a lesser extent j.r. highs. the rest need to be important somehow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.106.117 (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - The prior existence of the school and its prior use do not meet Notability requirements. The article currently lists a member of an Arena Football 2 (i.e. minor league) team, an unattributed cornerback, unattributed former state senator, and an unsourced listing for Fred Fagg. The article lists two trivia items that are, well, trivial and unsourced. As entered, these do not meet notability requirements; and, it would appear that some of these entries are grossly inaccurate, at best. --Daddy.twins (talk) 15:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.