Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Park Village Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Ezeu 23:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Park Village Elementary School

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Non-notable elementary school. No verifiable sources that make this particular elementary school stand out. It had already been redirected to the school district article (Poway Unified School District} as most non-notable elementary school articles are, but User:The Phoenix Enforcer keeps removing the redirect, then leaving a talk page message saying "Hah!" on my talk page. I have decided to take it here rather than get into a revert war with him. —Ocatecir ^Talk 00:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Please keep the page, I would like to leave something I have created.The Phoenix Enforcer 00:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Keep per "National Blue Ribbon school of excellence for 2000-2001 and a California Distinguished School in May, 2000." Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 00:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I would argue that almost every school has won an award from time to time. I don't think this satisfies the threshold for notability (No independent source provided for this anyway). —Ocatecir ^Talk 00:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but according to Blue Ribbon Schools Program, it has received a very prestigious award. Its listed on the school website and I don't think a city government would lie about something like that, it could be considered illegal false advertisement if it was untrue. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 00:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Notability, once established, does not expire. An award that made the school notable several years ago continues to make in notable today. --Eastmain 00:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 01:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. I don't think the Blue Ribbon award is selective enough to establish notability. According to this site:[[1]], over 3000 of these awards were given out between 1982 and 1996 alone, and the program has been running another 10 years since then, selecting what looks like about 250 schools per year --- that's roughly 6000 of these awards given out. Here's a complete listing of schools that have received a Blue Ribbon award: 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 1982–83 to 2001–02. I don't think each of these schools deserves a separate entry. SkipSmith 01:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• CommentI think the estimate of 6,000 schools is about right. The Blue Ribbon Schools Program article points out that that's 6,000 out of a total of about 133,000 schools of all types in the United States (although some schools have won in multiple years, so that cuts down the number of winners). If there were a total of say, 5,000, that would mean one school in every 26 has already received the award. I'm neutral. Noroton 01:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - so the School is in the top 4%; that seems notable to me. We are in danger of applying higher standards to schools, that are public institutions and have a permanence, than to the thousands of article on transient poupular culture - virtually every commercial CD has an article, many of which are little more than a track listing, take New Erections for example. Which article enhances WP the more? TerriersFan 03:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment. D'oh! I should have just read Blue Ribbon Schools Program more closely instead of doing all that detective work! SkipSmith 02:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete In its current form, subject is not sufficiently notable IMHO, although this is a close call. Whether it is d'd or k'd, it needs a proper citation to these awards. Depending on the citations they come up with, Messers. A or TF just might swing my vote on this one. --Butseriouslyfolks 01:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - Blue Ribbon Award now cited by U.S. Department of Education and Distinguished School Award by California Department of Education. TerriersFan 02:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - In addition to a Blue Ribbon award, this school has been particularly active in a number of initiatives. The test for inclusion in WP is whether there is likely to be sufficient interest in the school to justify an entry and that seems to be the case. TerriersFan 02:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep No matter how you slice it, the Blue Ribbon Schools Program is the highest level of recognition awarded to a school in the United States, along with its state's highest level of recognition. Notability is clearly established. Alansohn 12:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The school has some notability, and TerriersFan makes a good point that it's a public institution with some permanence. It also has the interest of a Wikipedia editor, which is important. And the article looks good. Worth keeping. Noroton 23:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable as a Blue Ribbon School award winning school, multiple third party sources are available as well. Yamaguchi先生 05:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keepper reasoning of Noroton, LordHarris 00:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per the comments supporting inclusion of this article above. RFerreira 02:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.