Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Park Seed Company

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. If anyone wants to merge some or all of the articles, that's an editorial decision and they're free to do it. - Bobet 10:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Park Seed Company

Park Seed Company (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Found several interlinked pages that look like an advertising campaign. A Google search reveals that the company is probably notable enough for an article, but I think that this current mass of pages and images needs to be cleared out - all current sources are self-published and I don't think that this can be turned into an objective encylopedia article without complete re-write and re-sourcing from scratch - by someone without a conflict of interest. The content of the pages and the fact that the same author(s) have been involved with all of them leads me to believe this originates with the firm.

I am also nominating the following related pages:
Wayside Gardens (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Park Seed Company Gardens (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
All-America Selections (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
All-America Selections History (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
George Watt Park (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
...and the images found on the above pages. RJASE1 Talk 01:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I make the following suggestions:
They all seem notable and I'm sure sources could be found. This seems like a major company. However, they also need cleanup and wikification. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 02:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
merge does feel like it is copyvio, but I couldn't find it if it was Balloonman 05:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep A Google search turned up these sources: [1] [2] [3]

Also, I found a ton of articles from reputable gardening publications touting flowers they've developed. I Googled a few phrases from the article, and the only hits I got were to this article, so if it's a copyvio, it's from a print source. Also, All-America Selections are significant honors in the world of gardening. Add it all together, and it seems pretty notable to me.--Djrobgordon 06:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

    • I just noticed All-America Selections is listed in the bundle. The article's atrocious, but I can't imagine deleting it. Again, it's a major award. If Man Booker Prize were a spammy copyvio, we wouldn't delete it. We'd reduce it to a stub and let someone write a more acceptable artice. That's precisely what we should do here. And yes, merge the history.--Djrobgordon 06:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • 'keep the ones about the different companies, merging more detailed ones into the main article. This i partly a matter of unfamiliar sources; WSP is not as strong in the area of gardening (or agriculture) as in most other topics, so we don't know the sources that well,. But the way to improve it is to keep articles like these, and build from there. DGG 00:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep article on George Park, Park Seeds, and All-America Selections, merge others per Mr.Z-man above. Reduce to stubs if necessary, but this company has been a big part of American gardening culture for decades; we need articles on them, and someone with some gardening magazines to hand should write good articles. I would be shocked if good 3rd party sources aren't available. Brianyoumans 18:53, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

After studying your recommendations and reviewing policies, I have attempted to bring the Park Seed, Wayside Gardens, and All-America Selection articles into compliance by editing out non-essentials. I respectfully request the following:

  • Keep article on George Park, Park Seeds, Wayside Gardens,and All-America Selections. The origins of Park Seed and Wayside Gardens are quite distinct, hence my request to retain separate entries
  • Merge All-America Selections History into All-America Selections
  • Delete Park Seed Company Gardens, or possibly merge some pieces into the Park Seed article. Thank you for your advice and consideration.Claire F. Kuhl 20:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.