Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paptimus Scirocco

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect without prejudice to a non-in universe article being written. Arguing for keeping an article on a "procedural fault" in the nomination is not usually a very productive avenue of argument; especially when the "procedural fault" amounts to your personal interpretation of what a game guide is, or is not. --Haemo 20:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paptimus Scirocco

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Wikipedia is not a game guide. Captain panda 02:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - In-universe style of writing, and per nom. --Hirohisat Kiwi 03:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong delete - absolutely no coverage by verifiable independent sources to satisfy WP:FICT. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I'm inexperienced at AfD, but shouldn't this be speedied? There is no context here that I recognize, for all I can tell this is just some gibberish that an eleven-year old made up one afternoon sitting at home. Unschool 04:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it sounds like it (Speedy criteria are at WP:CSD) - especially A1: definitely no context provided (It does sound like a Gundam thing). It doesn't even start off with a complete sentence. ALTON .ıl 08:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Zeta Gundam. While I'm here, what's the point of adding strong when you put delete? It doesn't make your delete more likely to count. Jtrainor 11:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
    Because you asked, I'll direct you to a discussion they had about that very topic (here), but it fizzled out before it got good. ALTON .ıl 20:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect per Jtrainor. This topic is significant enough to deserve its own article but until a better article can be written, redirecting is the best option. --Polaron | Talk 15:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or redirect. It's impossible to tell whether this topic is actually notable or encyclopaedic, as the article is so woefully lacking context. Failing that, delete. DWaterson 22:19, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep. He seems pretty important considering his final confrontation with the protagonist Kamille Bidan. Shaneymike 16:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hell, there's an article for Adenaur Paraya, but he was only in one movie. Paptimus appeared in more than one episode of Zeta Gundam. His final confrontation with Kamille Bidan was very epic to say the least. Even Paptimus ultimately died, he delivered a crippling blow that fired Kamille's brain. So yes, this article should be kept. It just needs to be fixed. Shaneymike 13:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CitiCat ♫ 13:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete in universe game guide content that's rich with original research Corpx 04:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete This kind of article MUST be deleted from Wikipedia. RS1900 05:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
There are tons of articles on Wikipedia dealing with anime characters. Obviously, this one needs a little work, but I see no reason for its deletion. And as I said, this character is pretty important considering his final confrontation with Kamille Bidan. Shaneymike 13:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Article was nominated for deletion 8, count them, 8 minutes after it was created. Give it some time to be worked on. Kyaa the Catlord 14:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Been nominated for a week without significant improvement. If trying to avoid deletion doesn't inspire improvement, there probably isn't any to be had. Doceirias 18:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge it and other Mobile Suit Gundam characters into List of Mobile Suit Gundam characters per WP:FICT. Editors who have commented that this article is a game guide clearly did not look at the article. --Farix (Talk) 15:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
The reason they called it a game guide was because whoever started it did a very poor job. I just added that opening paragraph describing him as a fictional character in Zeta Gundam today. Shaneymike 16:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep on procedural grounds - article is not a game guide, so nominator has provided no reason for nomination. Edward321 22:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Edward321. Seems rather obvious to me... MalikCarr 01:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Edward321, due to the procedural fault in the nom. I concur also that some cleanup is required - but that's not Cause for deletion. Best, ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 16:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.