Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pagan metal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Default to keep. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 14:28, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pagan metal

This is not a valid music genre, as it is a label used by bands as a form of promotion (ie. we aren't black metal. We're PAGAN black metal) in an attempt to garner sales. The music style is no different from standard black metal or folk metal, with the lyrics being the sole difference. This, along with Battle metal (black metal with slightly different lyrics)and National Socialist Black Metal (black metal with yet another lyrical theme)should all be removed based on the aforementioned criteria. If, for some reason, someone truly believes this article is necessary, merge it and the others with the Black Metal page. 69.107.74.231 12:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

• keep this is a valid music genre and is commonly used and quite a bit different from both black and folk metal, if I take Primordial as a prime example. There are many virtually non-existent labels included in WP, and I have tried to clean it up a bit, but this one should be here. NSBM tho could be merged with black metal. Battle metal probably deserves an article as well. Spearhead 12:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
• This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 15:41, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete imaginary music genre. Not one of the bands cited as examples is described using this term on their own WP pages, and indeed many of them aren't links to bands at all, but to mythological figures after whom, presumably, bands have been named. —Wahoofive (talk) 22:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Aren't there already 500 kinds of metal? Do we really need 501? Jasmol 00:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - this is really no different to Christian Rock. It is combining a religion with a type of music. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 00:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
• keep -- I agree the metal "genre cruft" is rather puerile, but it's an actual asset of the metal scene, and not an artefact of Wikipedia. So there is no reason to delete this particular one "genre". 160,000 google hits, de:Pagan Metal, nl:Pagan Metal, valid article (should be cleaned up though, or if nobody does that, merge until someone adds substantial content) dab (ᛏ) 09:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
• 'Delete or merge. Another made up pet name, to describe bands from Folk Metal that use paganistic themes (which is pretty much half of all folk metal bands). Either Merge with Folk Metal, or outright delete. Oh, and this isnt a common known genre. Check [Metal] and Symphonic Metal for a list of metal archival sites that are quite common. This is nothing more than yet another pet name, like most of the metal articles on Wikipedia. Leyasu 13:25, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.