Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ozlabs

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete without prejudice towards recreation if a) notability can be established; and b) reliable sources can be provided. (For example, the statement "OzLabs is notable for being one of the first commercial labs setup to work on Linux and Linux support, and also as being the largest and most respected collection of Free Software developers in Australia." needs to be cited to an independent reliable source making this claim.) —Doug Bell talk 10:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Non-notable vanity. Having been a part of Ozlabs for about a year, it seems easier to AfD than to add my name. This is one of many deparments within IBM; the company has tens of thousands of deparments, and thousands of brilliant engineers, many more notable and acheived than the folks listed here. Most Harvard professors or the depts they're in don't rank an article on WP; I don't see the point of starting to list rank-n-file corporate employees. Since I work with many of these people here, sorry, my apologies in advance, but WP is not the place for this. linas 01:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep: Why is wikipedia not the place for this? Wikipedia has become a general reference point. I see no reason why this article should be deleted. The OzLabs team in Canberra is a significant entity in the Australian Open Source Development community. I agree the article could do with more detail, and more explanation of the team's place in the Australian, and global open source development community. --CatS 05:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Firelement85 04:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I would support keeping it if it was responsible for significant breakthroughs in computer science. The article does not give any examples of things that would make it notable. Google News Archive confirms that it is an IBM Linux Laboratory but neither article establishes notability in my view. [1]

Capitalistroadster 01:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Ozlabs is the largest and most notable collection of Free Software developers in Australia. Linas' assertion that he's "been a part of Ozlabs" indicates that the article is not as clear as it should be.

--Rusty 02:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment Not sure if the article is trying to be more about the original organisation founded by Linuxcare than it is about the current organisation with the same name? Maybe "Ozlabs" isn't that rare a name among international organisations with labs (of any sort) in Australia.Garrie 03:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Ozlabs is a FOSS social landmark in AU. People from Ozlabs are currently working for IBM, but the Samba team and Rusty's kernel work are just two projects which have roots in this group. lucychili —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.44.124.28 (talk) 11:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC).
  • Delete unsourced/OR article, subject does not appear to meet WP:Notability. -- Chondrite 23:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Appreciate the feedback on the article, clearly we need to update it to better explain the relevance of OzLabs's contributions to FOSS to a non .au audience. We'll get a cleaned up version up as soon as we're able. Hughhalf 04:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Don't forget the third-party attribution, and I'd recommend avoiding displaying a long membership list; instead, focus on the importance of the organization. B.Wind 04:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.